Posted on 11/29/2016 12:16:58 PM PST by lafroste
Having stated in the past that the only reason Turkish forces are on Syrian soil is to combat Islamic State terrorists, today Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan made a dramatic diplomatic reversal and said that the Turkish Army has entered Syria to end the rule of President Bashar Assad, whom he accused of terrorism and causing the deaths of thousands.
“We entered [Syria] to end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad who terrorizes with state terror. [We didn’t enter] for any other reason,” the Turkish president was quoted by Huyrriyet as saying at the first Inter-Parliamentary Jerusalem Platform Symposium in Istanbul. Erdogan said that Turkey has no territorial claims in Syria, but instead wants to hand over power to the Syrian population, adding that Ankara is seeking to restore “justice.”
“Why did we enter? We do not have an eye on Syrian soil. The issue is to provide lands to their real owners. That is to say we are there for the establishment of justice,” he said, taking a page out of the US playbook, which however in recent weeks has been muted following substantial advances by Syrian and Russian forces which as reported last night, have made material gains in the fight against Syrian rebels in east Aleppo.
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If this is really all about the pipelines as has been speculated then I say Trump unleash US drilling and start shipping to the EU and claim peace through economic power. Cute off at the knees while they are fighting each other.
Oh oh you want public works projects build an underwater pipeline for natural gas to the UK and/or EU
Are you also on Hezbollah and Iran's side against the Syrians fighting for freedom and democracy?
Russia has been a Syrian ally for at least 60 years that I know of. It didn’t leave Syria ideologically. It left for financial reasons.
What was the best way to bring it back? The answer is Obama joining the fight against Syrian government forces.
Let’s reflect on the timing of the Syrian opposition. It came as the Muslim Brotherhood executed a plan to destabilize governments from Tunisia through to the Arab Emirate states, and up through Syria.
Was it simply an uprising of citizens in Eastern Syria? No. It was an uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda.
Guess who started the problems in Tunisia. George Soros. He funneled money into Tunisia and the region. His grubby little fingers were all over this. And his nimrod buds in our government went along for the ride. Obama, Clinton, McCain, and Graham advocated for the U.S. to help the terrorists out in Libya.
We funded and armed the Libyan rebels (the Muslim Brotherhood), which resulted in the loss of a very good ally, Hosni Mubarak. It also cost us our Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and his staff’s lives.
I will also talk about Libya, a country whose leader had turned over his nuclear weapons program, and was in that time content to simply lead his people. He was essentially a stable pretty well known individual. He knew that if we would take Hussein down in Iraq, we would do the same to him. He decided to stop being an thorn in our side.
The Arab Spring was a pipe dream of Soros, and we had allied with him and terrorists to pull it off.
The Syrian uprising started in the same time frame where about 12 nations in the region saw elevated uprisings. In most they didn’t go very far, but in Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt, they did. Syria was in line to join them too.
The U.S. dumped money into Eastern Syria, funding and arming al Qaeda. This most certainly resulted in arms and funds helping to establish ISIS.
What we actually had in Syria was a government that wasn’t openly anti-U.S., was fairly decent to Christians and Jews. I didn’t know that until several years ago, but it true.
Assad wasn’t quite the ruthless guy I had envisioned him as being over the years. Now that’s not to say he didn’t do problematic things, but al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, and certainly ISIS would not have been better.
Assad allowed Iran to supply Hamas (perhaps Hezbollah, I forget which as I write) in Southern Lebanon, so he wasn’t without problems for us or Israel. None the less, the other factions vying for power in Syria, would have been devastating if they had taken over the government of Syria on Israel’s Northern border.
Those factions operate as an army, and they would have been on Israel’s border with massive numbers of armed and well financed fighters.
So do I prefer Russian in at this point? I do. Why? Because Russia is willing to stand up to the Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda, and ISIS.
It is inconceivable to me that anyone with half a clue could have envisioned one of these three groups armed and financed on Israel’s border unless they hated Israel and wanted it to be over-run in short order.
There would have been a war in months, had those groups taken over. Russia actually pulled Israel’s ass out of the fire there.
Under the Soviet Union, I would agree with your take. Under Putin, we have a more stable situation that doesn’t promise war against Israel in months.
Do I want Putin and Russia in Syria. Hell no. What’s the quickest way to get him and Russia out?
Stop funding and arming terrorist groups that are more threats to peace in the region than Russia is, at the moment.
Without us there, and a real threat to the Syrian government, Russia will fade again in Syria. If Trump is as smart as I think he is, he’ll make overtures to Putin and Assad, and try to heal the wounds Obama, Clinton, McCain, and Graham inflicted.
Soros involvement:
http://www.wnd.com/2011/02/260577/
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/01/18/tunisian-revolt-another-sorosned-jack-up/
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/offices-foundations/arab-regional-office
Did he check with Putin first?
You really believe it was some vast George Soros left-wing conspiracy, and not the courage and sacrifice of our troops, which inspired the Arab People to be want to want to be like us, and become American Revolutionaries in their own nations demanding freedom and democracy for themselves while doing our country and the rest of the world a favor by overthrowing the Pan-Socialist Dictator enemies of the USA and Mankind who have American blood all over their hands?
Please read the materials I provided.
There’s no denying what took place. I gave you three or four sources.
Those people didn’t want to become like the U.S. They were consolidating control, and left no room for a Constitutional Republican anything like ours.
Egypt is one nation that was not our enemy. When it’s government was overturned and Mubarak placed in jail, the Muslim Brotherhood dominated government was quickly overturned because of it’s Islamist ideals, which soon caused panic when folks saw what was coming.
Tell me what trouble Khadaffy was causing in real time, when his government was toppled.
Tell me what the leaders of Tunisia were doing that was anti-U.S.
Tell me what Assad had been doing that was anti-U.S.
None of them were openly anti-West at the time of their conflicts.
As I said, there were about twelve different nations affected by the Arab Spring.
Who among them were openly anti-West, and didn’t have massive fortunes invested in the West?
Who stood to lose, if the West’s interests suffered and markets tanked?
The uprising of the Arab people was just to give cover for the EU and US Oligarchs, who unleashed their horrific plans to arm and train the world’s most homicidal terrorists. We need congressional investigations and all those involved with arming and funding terrorist should be jailed.
The good news is that Turkey has not been attacked, Turkey is attacking. This eliminates any need for NATO intervention. NATO should use this as a reason to expel Turkey from NATO and we need to remove our nuclear weapons to a safer place like Isreal.
“The issue is to provide lands to their real owner” or begin our new Ottoman empire which ever comes first.
Turkey invades Syria and attacks Syria’s ally Russia.
Where does NATO come into play?
You've got it all wrong, my friend, because you're under the mistaken impression that Obama caused the Arab Spring when he actually did everything in his power to kill it and The Bush Freedom Agenda in order to maintain the status-quo of socialist dictatorship in the Middle East.
Just listen to yourself! You are claiming that Obama wanted to topple his fellow socialist dictators and promote freedom and democracy in the Middle East, which, of course, is a ridiculous assertion because Obama has been trying to put the freedom Genie back in the bottle ever since W let it out.
Obama’s not a Muslim, although I wish that he was an Allah-fearing fearing Muslim instead of the godless, atheistic socialist he is because if he was one, he wouldn't have allowed so many of his fellow Muslims to die on his watch.
Thanks for the additional comments.
Look, I think you’re off base.
Even here you address his religion, and he declared that if political winds became twisted, he would stand with Islam.
He said this in his book, he supposedly wrote.
There’s no denying these things:
1. Soros spread money around Tunisia and other places at the start of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Arab Spring
2. Obama armed and funded the Muslim Brotherhood.
3. Obama armed and funded al Qaeda in Syria.
4. ISIS sprang forth with arms and funds Obama had supplied to the Eastern part of Syria.
Take care.
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