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3 deaths may be linked to community Thanksgiving dinner in Antioch
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | November 28, 2016 | Vivian Ho and Sarah Ravani

Posted on 11/28/2016 5:53:47 PM PST by artichokegrower

Three people died and several others were badly sickened from apparent food poisoning, and authorities were investigating Monday whether the outbreak was linked to a community Thanksgiving dinner in Antioch.

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
"Thankfully I had the lasagna."

One year I got so fed up with my grandkids. When I said I would have Thanksgiving at my house,one started complaining, "I don't like Turkey". The other complaining, "I don't like Ham." I said, "Fine then, I will just fix spaghetti." They all said that was the best Thanksgiving ever. :-)

41 posted on 11/28/2016 6:54:35 PM PST by Spunky
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To: artichokegrower

Probably the stuffing. If you don’t get it hot enough inside the bird it can have deadly bacteria.


42 posted on 11/28/2016 7:00:00 PM PST by Bullish (The fly on Hillary's forehead knows)
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To: NormsRevenge

Was this 3 members of the same family ..??

And, is the Antioch, the one near SF ..?? If so, it’s a very, very heavy enclave of DemocRATS.


43 posted on 11/28/2016 7:07:38 PM PST by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: SaveFerris

After reading some of this thread I’m very glad that I don’t really like turkey or stuffing. In fact, call me weird but I don’t like turkey dinners at all. But then I can’t stand pizza and spaghetti either along with most other Italian dishes. Foods that most other people love.


44 posted on 11/28/2016 7:09:03 PM PST by Bullish (The fly on Hillary's forehead knows)
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To: Bullish

Just the thought of Cooking stuffing inside the turkey turns my stomach.


45 posted on 11/28/2016 7:13:47 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Bullish

That’s OK. I’m that way with seafood.

My idea of seafood is the (rare) McD’s Filet-O-Fish with extra cheese or my preferred stop is ....... Long John Silver’s.

They used to have boneless skinless chicken breast and rice. I’d often go there for lunch in the 1990’s.

Now I prefer the 2-fish, lotsa Malt Vinegar and LJ’s hot sauce (they have bottles you can buy!) no hush puppies (got a bad one loaded with grease in about 2004 - haven’t recovered, LOL — side of corn and coleslaw hit with pepper and salt.

Mmmmm .... good.

It’s good we’re not all going for the same food. This message brought to you by new Soylent Green. Made from plankton, of course.


46 posted on 11/28/2016 7:21:00 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: artichokegrower
They also declined to provide any demographic information regarding the eight patients.

Only the racially obsessed San Francisco Chronicle would give a damn about the races of the victims. And you know they would have asked the question ten different ways, growing more visibly frustrated with each refusal to answer.

47 posted on 11/28/2016 7:21:45 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: SamAdams76

Waking up comes with risks.


48 posted on 11/28/2016 7:24:39 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: CyberAnt

sounds like a random kind of thing, and Yes, It is Antioch by Pittsburg/ Concord.


49 posted on 11/28/2016 7:30:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: SaveFerris

You toss out the granny smiths and onions after roasting and make a casserole dressing.
Its edible but the apple is just for flavor and mushy


50 posted on 11/28/2016 7:31:36 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: SamAdams76

If done right, low risk. Remove the turkey from oven when thigh reaches 160 degrees and then cover with tin foil for about an hour before slicing. <<<<

I bring mine up to 190 or better at the thigh, and about 180 at the breast...and use a roasting bag to bring that temperature up. I never trust the built in thermometer as they are untrustworthy. The bird is barely done when that thing pops up, and sometimes it simply doesn’t. So, I use a good quality meat thermometer which also allows one to check the temp of the stuffing.

Sufficient heat kills bacteria, but if something is left sitting for a long time just warm, it can set up bacteria. Keep it HOT! OR...chill it down quickly, and keep it COLD.

If you cook food, and you don’t allow it to cool well before placing it in the fridge, it will sour. In sufficient quantities, it can warm the entire fridge which can cause everything in there to sour before it cools down sufficiently.

A hot kitchen is no place to cool foods that need to be cooled quickly, and putting hot/warm foods in a fridge with the lid ON, allows spoilage. So, if someone made a big batch of gravy, didn’t cool it right and then put the big pot in the cooler with the lid on, and it didn’t cool sufficiently or quickly, you now have a vector for making people sick. Especially if that food wasn’t reheated to the boiling point and well stirred.

And sometimes, actually frequently, processed foods come already tainted..think icecream, hamburger, and many others that come from ‘inspected’ ‘approved’ facilities. How many recalls have we all seen in the news of products tainted from the factory???? You know, the ones licensed to prove they’re ‘safe’, but really aren’t?

It’s hard to know what those people may have eaten before even going to that place for dinner, but it looks like “Hodgins” is going to have to analyze the particulates (the actor from the Bones series) of the leftovers to see if he can find what caused it. Course, by now it’s all likely to be contaminated.

*One more good reason why church’s feeding the homeless should be stopped :( /S


51 posted on 11/28/2016 7:32:58 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: NEMDF

Good plan


52 posted on 11/28/2016 7:33:17 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: RhoTheta

Ping.


53 posted on 11/28/2016 7:33:47 PM PST by Egon
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To: SaveFerris

54 posted on 11/28/2016 7:36:23 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: SaveFerris

That’d be a Long John Silver #9 Meal, with LOTSA malt vinegar. I stop and get 2-3 every time I pass the one here in town. Fish ‘n Chips. Damn, now I’m getting hungry.


55 posted on 11/28/2016 7:43:54 PM PST by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: mylife

lol


56 posted on 11/28/2016 7:44:01 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: artichokegrower

How sad; if they came from some sort of residential facility some of them may have been quite frail to begin with.


57 posted on 11/28/2016 7:46:03 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: BenLurkin

My mother in law keeps a very clean house and kitchen, but is a bit casual regarding cross contamination, IMO. I’m surprised that things always stayed safe.

This was the first year she wasn’t in charge of the meal so the “planning committee” (I’m serious) assigned food responsibilities for everyone and all went well. All of my husband’s siblings and their families were there: 85 people! If food poisoning occurred we would never be able to figure out the source.


58 posted on 11/28/2016 7:49:24 PM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: carriage_hill

Awesome! Always glad to know of a fellow traveler of greasy food!

Be sure to hit that fish, or whatever it is, lol, with some hot sauce too!!!

My folks and I would get together and go get a family pack of the fish and sides -— good times. Gosh I miss them.


59 posted on 11/28/2016 7:51:18 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: SamAdams76

I’ll try that next time. That is the way my mom cooked dressing. My wife has never cooked it that way.

Thank you....


60 posted on 11/28/2016 7:55:24 PM PST by Gator113 (~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~ LOCK HER UP ~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~)
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