Posted on 11/27/2016 6:55:28 AM PST by Kaslin
When people speak of Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote, they are really speaking about California. In that state, Hillary Clinton won 6,621,346 votes to Donald Trump's 3,549,576 as of this writing. This margin of over three million votes alone accounts for any claim that Clinton exceeded Trump in popular support.
Consider some numbers. In New York, Trump won 37.5% of the vote; in New Jersey, Trump won over 40%; and in Illinois, Trump won 39.4%. Among sizably populated states that lean "overwhelmingly" Democrat, California is in a class by itself. Trump struggled to get even a third of Californian votes.
Moreover, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois differ markedly from California because their tilt toward the Democrats happens on a very different landscape. New York and Illinois are pushed into deep blue territory by singular metro areas (NYC and Chicago), which overpower small-town areas ("upstate" or "downstate") where Republicans gather in strong numbers. New Jersey is wedged between the Democratic machine cities of Philadelphia and New York City and has a smattering of medium-sized urban centers with large black populations.
Only in California does one find a vast state with a huge population (nearly 40 million people) with multiple sprawling metro areas that all lean strongly Democratic or, at best (in the case of San Diego), just libertarian enough to be less than completely left wing. The San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Palm Springs, Long Beach, etc. stretch across miles and miles of a complex and diverse landscape, hosting a stunning multiplicity of races and ethnicities. Yet everywhere you go in the state, you seem to find Democrats or Republicans who just don't strike you as all that conservative.
California is a different country.
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For anyone who says “Let California go”, would you have felt the same way in 1861? Would you have agreed with the sentiment after 1865, and persisting until recently, that secession is unlawful?
I am no fan of California and its destructive politics; however, if it was wrong for the Confederacy to secede, then it is wrong now. Live with it, California.
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I could not agree more, RFEngineer. Well said.
I'd imagine the air fighters and bombers out of Andrews, Nellis, and NAS North Island would have no qualms carrying out such missions.
Neither town has the resources nor the balls to defend themselves against this.
Down with Kaepernickfornia!
Has anyone polled this? Even the most liberal of my family, friends and neighbors wouldn’t vote to leave the Union.
The people that don't like the election results can move to Mexico, Cuba, etc.
Defund the “sanctuary cities” and watch California turn around. Fast.
Congress did not approve Confederate states’ secession. Congress could approve California’s.
do you also think american jews should have their US citizenship stripped ?
The “extreme measures” that I am proposing would not be extreme if CA actually attempt secession. Civil wars get ugly real fast and the quicker it’s over the better for everybody.
CA Resident here.
If this really happened, and it won’t, CA would end up allowing Fracking, Off Shore Drilling, Desalinization Plants instead of a Bullet Train to nowhere and the Delta Smelt would be sacrificed to get enough Water.
As they say, when you are hungry enough you’ll eat anything to survive, even Libtards. They just don’t know it yet since they never sacrificed anything except their undeserved Freedoms.
What's extreme about repelling invasion by force of arms?
Or firebombing legitimate targets which have come under enemy control?
Was Sherman's March to the Sea extreme?
Most of the Southern members of my family think so. But Northerners and some Southerners think not: they think it was a rescue that ended the War quickly.
California has become a danger to humanity precisely because it undermines America: if America is not there to rescue Humanity, then who? Mexico?
Was it really illegal for the South to try to secede way back then or did the Federal Government overreach - I'd wager more atrocities were performed by the North than the South.
Agree. If they go split East West, keep the military bases.
Give Ca. The ability to print their own money they will go down the drain fast.
>>Secession is as basic a human right as joining a union. Secession is full of more issues than joining, but it should be allowed for a free people in a geographic area.
Secession is a signicant check on Federal power, which, as Obama is proving, can go otherwise unchecked.
For example, if Hillary and Soros somehow stole this election next month, how would you feel about it?
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You have expressed this very well, thank you.
After all, if a “free” people aren’t “free” to leave, are they really “free”?
Well Mr. Regulator, while I agree with much that you say, where is the GOP voice in Mexifornia? I live in Issaland and this was the first election where Issa stirred himself to compete that I can recall. Previous elections - no public meetings that I could find unles you were willing to pay $xx per plate. If there were meetings, I could not find them. The GOP does not need mucho dinero to compete - Trump has shown at least one low cost way!
I believe there should not be dual citizenship for anyone.
We don’t need people with split allegiances.
Busy playing golf while their illegal alien workers trim the lawns
I disagree about letting California go.
As it is California (like New York) serves a valuable function by providing a place for so-called “progressives” to congregate together into a mighty conformist herd where they can have endless safe spaces and what have you within the echo chamber they create. This hopefully helps draw more and more “progressives” from elsewhere so that other States, especially my beloved Texas, is relieved of enough leftist to remain conservative and sane.
So every four years the State overwhelmingly goes to the DNC, but they only get so many votes in the EC no matter how mightily lopsided the vote for one side may be.
Go West Young Liberal Man ... for California beckons you on!
After 2 nights in Scottsdale came a night at a Motel 6 in Yuma, 2 nights in SD that included the Zoo and a literal Tijuana taxi ride.
Then, after a stop at San Juan Capistrano on the way up the 5 came three nights at my stepdad's lawyer nephew's condo in Santa Monica (3 blocks from the beach). We did Universal City and Disneyland.
Then it was one night in Morro Bay, a drive up Route 1 to Carmel and a night there, and then 4 nights at the Sheraton Fisherman's Wharf before flying home.
I think of that now as coming near the end of Cali's glory days. :/
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With California's pro illegal immigration 55 electoral votes gone, we stand a much better chance of keeping the remaining 49 states.
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