Posted on 11/27/2016 4:19:20 AM PST by NYer
The recount in Wisconsin, and coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change the outcomes in any of the states. No recount ever changes thousands of votes. I do not think that is the purpose.
The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270.
Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time this happened since 1824; in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson.
If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it? The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress.
The recount in Wisconsin, and the coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change outcomes in any of the states. No recount ever changes thousands of votes. I do not think that's the purpose.
The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
‘rats on the ground’ aren’t angry enough for their puppet masters. They’re trying to resurrect Franken (recount) Stein to scare the snowflakes. Seek shelter immediately precious snowflakes. Chill.
Busted! Jill Stein’s Election Recount Is Being Paid For By a Bot!
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879
Roger Stone on Twitter: “Jill Stein “recount funded by Soros
https://mobile.twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/802230392493404160
I would like to address the comparisons many have made with Al Franken’s 2008 Senate contest. The following from Wikipedia:
“Preliminary reports on election night, November 4, had Coleman ahead by over 700 votes, but the official results certified on November 18, 2008, had Coleman leading by only 215 votes. As the two candidates were separated by less than 0.5 percent, the Secretary of State of Minnesota Mark Ritchie, authorized an automatic recount stipulated in Minnesota election law. In the recount, ballots and certifying materials were examined by hand, and candidates could file challenges to the legality of ballots or materials for inclusion or exclusion with regard to the recount. On January 5, 2009, the Minnesota State Canvassing Board certified the recounted vote totals, with Franken ahead by 225 votes.[60]
On January 6, 2009, Coleman’s campaign filed an election contest, which led to a trial before a three-judge panel.[61] The trial ended on April 7, when the panel ruled that 351 of 387 disputed absentee ballots were incorrectly rejected and ordered them counted. Counting those ballots raised Franken’s lead to 312 votes.”
Basically, it was a close election result that legally triggered a recount and that those few more (originally rejected) ballots that were included via the legal challenge gave Franken the edge over Coleman.
To say that Franken won after one recount after another (as if it was done until he got his desired result) gave him that Senate seat is false and absolutely misleading. Even though, to be sure, I certainly do not share Mr. Franken’s politics, I’m very surprised with many here who mention simplistic comparisons with him when they obviously have not read about what actually did happen, given the Wikipedia excerpt I quote here.
You have to cull the dead voters, the repeat voters and the 13% illegals, no way they can do that in 53 days. Trump can challenge Cali with all their illegal voters which is higher than 13%, Memphi’s dead voters, then you have those in jail or prison who don’t have the franchise to vote any longer but still vote dem every election.
This has to be fixed. Get rid of Motor Voter laws, it is a statutory law and easy to be gotten rid of. Simple majority which we have if the RINOS don’t revolt.
These vile cretans need to be put on the defensive, Trump needs to put the entire effort of the new FBI, CIA and the DOJ into investigating ALL of them
Only if they can do it to all and drop him below 270 - then it goes to the Congress and they will have managed to disenfranchise the voters of 3 States - something that is not likely to go over well with these typically-not-red States......
Correct. The corrupt left needs to delay completion of the recounts in all three states until after December 13, prevent the state legislatures from directing Electors to vote (VERY unlikely given the party distributions, unless they offer large bribes), and also flip 19 faithless Electors. If they do that, they win . . . or, more likely, start our second Civil War.
Hillary should have gone quietly into the Night.
Trump will Prosecute Team Hillary and utilize Wikileaks to open multiple investigations against member of the Left both political and private citizen. Draining the Swamp just got turned in a political Civil War.
Great links!! Thanks for posting these to the thread.
I wish I had the means to start a "Tell The Truth" campaign against the media. We need millions of voices to shame into telling the truth that:
1. Clinton's supposed lead in the "popular" vote comes from illegals in California.
2. There is no such thing as the "popular" vote in our system. We have 50 separate state elections.
3. We have the Electoral College for an extremely important reason.
4. Starting these recalls now, nearly a month after the election and by a very minor party candidate who has no real reason to demand them, is only a disgusting SCHEME by the hard Left to basically overthrow our legitimate election.
From what I can find on the net, Jill Stein’s actual 2016 campaign raised just under $2 Millions, so her recount fundraising is about twice as profitable. I suppose next time she can go straight to the recount fundraising and forget the actual campaign. What a country!
National Photo/Biometric ID Card.
Should be "We need millions of voices to shame them..."
(Sigh...many's the time I wished FR had an edit post function.)
Talk about a bunch of teed-off, disenfranchised voters.
Trump now knows that Soros must be destroyed.
The document declaring Hillary Clinton to be President is her death warrant
There are other, simpler , games to be played. One of those games will result in her quick death.
We shouldn’t kid ourselves.
Their objective — the ultimate strategy — is to steal the election.
Any other objective is secondary.
IIRC, wasn’t it this contest that had the finding of a ‘ballot box in the trunk’ of the car of a Democrat and that is what gave Franken the lead?
“If the recounts are not done in time, the state legislatures have the option of using the original results and directing the electors to vote accordingly.”
Which actually last occurred in Massachusetts in 1848.
All 6 legislative houses are R. PA is still in session until the 30th; Michigan all year. WI Gov. Walker would have to call a special session.
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