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(VANITY) What do we say to Californians who want to secede?
http://www.freerepublic.com/~brilliant/ ^ | 11/13/2016 | Me

Posted on 11/13/2016 8:27:56 AM PST by Brilliant

What do we say to Californians who want to secede? Most often, I hear, "Good. Do it," or some variant thereof. But that is way too flippant, and there are much better potential responses.

Another appropriate response might be, "That wasn't the deal. The deal was that you would move to Canada."

But even that misses the major lesson that should be learned from this election.

The truth is that the people who elected Donald Trump as President spent the last 8 years suffering through Obama. There was little talk of secession, and certainly no organized effort to secede by any state. Those who talked about secession were quickly ridiculed, often by those who are now advocating California secession.

We suffered through Obama. We suffered through the slow economy. We suffered through the Obamacare lies and then failure. We suffered through riots and rising crime. Now the California liberals can suffer through Trump.

As Obama said, "I won." But now, Trump can say the same, and California must accept the result, just as we were compelled to do in the case of Obama.

And that is not merely a way of saying that it is time for payback. It is simply what it means to be a nation. We are one nation. Not two. Not more.

In a democratic republic, the representatives of the people are elected by a majority of electors. The minority must accept the result. It is impossible for everyone to have their own way. That is the nature of government. It is, in fact, one of the great problems with government, and is one of the reasons that the Founders built this nation on federalism.

There was once a time when states had considerable rights. There was once a time when the federal government was small, and the state government was the primary governmental influence in our lives.

That day has passed, and it has passed largely because of the political activism of progressives in California and other very liberal states, who wanted to substitute federal power for state power. If our country were still run primarily by the states, as conservatives would have liked, then we would not be having this conversation. The progressives created this situation. Now they must deal with it or be branded hypocrites.

I see that the major California politicians are vowing that they will make sure that irrespective what happens in Washington, California will continue to welcome illegal immigrants, and follow liberal policies that have been rejected by the nation as a whole.

How is it, then, that over the last 8 years, we in the rest of the United States have been compelled to accept the left-wing policies of Barack Obama and the Democratic Party elite? No one told us that we had the option. When the issue was tested in the courts, the courts ruled that the states must yield to the policies of Mr. Obama and the liberal elite because they were in control of the US government. Yet those same liberals claim the right to ignore federal directive now that they are no longer in power.

No, it is much too generous to give the Californians the option of secession. The "do it" response is just too lenient. They need to be taught a lesson, and who better to teach that lesson than they themselves? By telling them simply "We won," we are only holding them to their own standard of fairness. They created this situation. Now they must deal with it.


TOPICS: US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ca2016; immigration; trump
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To: rcofdayton

It’s Rat Urban Utopias vs. the rest of America.


21 posted on 11/13/2016 8:36:24 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Brilliant

Let them leave, and make sure ALL the Hollyweird types stay in California, and quick, build a wall to keep them from trying to sneak out.


22 posted on 11/13/2016 8:36:41 AM PST by euram
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To: Brilliant

Tell them to go back to Mexico, or wherever they came from.

25% of California is foreign born.


23 posted on 11/13/2016 8:38:21 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Brilliant

Don’t let them leave. NO, sell them to the Chinese to eliminate the debt. Not the whole state, just the liberal quagmires.


24 posted on 11/13/2016 8:39:32 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: deadrock

Surrender all the patents and copyrights and intellectual property to the U.S government, filed from entities from your state.

You take the burden of $42k per household debt.

We’re keeping San Diego county, camp Pendleton, Catalina islands and Imperial county.


25 posted on 11/13/2016 8:39:45 AM PST by Fhios (In the end Hillary, MSM, and Obama were beat by Trumps pure strategic genius.)
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To: euram

“What do we say to Californians who want to secede?”
How bout what Obamacare said to Old Folks (75+) “hurry up and die?”


26 posted on 11/13/2016 8:39:51 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Brilliant

Go in peace but leave the beach right where it is. Move to Mexico or Canada or Polynesia or the seacoast of Bohemia. But leave that here.


27 posted on 11/13/2016 8:39:59 AM PST by Buttons12
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To: Brilliant

I’d just quote the one who the far left “media” says is
“America’s greatest orator of all time”, Barry Soetoro...
“WE WON!”


28 posted on 11/13/2016 8:40:37 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (A proud and defiant irredeemable deplorable!)
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To: Brilliant

Political secession takes time. Separate now from the evil majority of America. Stop taking water from red states. Food too from those evil redneck red states. Reject all red tourists. Invite all of Mexico and make everything free for them-food,housing and medical care. If you have a store or business -give your product and services away to the downtrodden and afraid. No charge for anything! First of all the offended elite can TAKE IN illegal families. Those 25 room mansions can be home to so many!None of this requires legal action. Every offended Californian can DO it now. We’re waiting...


29 posted on 11/13/2016 8:40:52 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Brilliant

Tell them to move out of the country and renounce their citizenship, or just shut up. They can personally secede, but not take their state with them.


30 posted on 11/13/2016 8:40:59 AM PST by MortMan (Hillary is a clear and present danger.)
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To: Brilliant

If going to Canada, none of this ‘north of the 49th’ stuff. How about north of the 67th.... lots of open space in Nunavut and rumour has it that they welcome liberals there.... http://nunavuttourism.com/regions-communities/kugluktuk


31 posted on 11/13/2016 8:41:11 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: Brilliant
My answer from another thread:
Here's my plan. We help all patriots trapped in CA to move out. Then build the wall around CA with an 8-lane super highway into Mexico with no border check points.
32 posted on 11/13/2016 8:42:57 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: Brilliant

Leave, but you have to drill for your own oil and build your own refineries.


33 posted on 11/13/2016 8:45:40 AM PST by Savage Rider
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To: Brilliant

34 posted on 11/13/2016 8:45:54 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Brilliant

Just keep selling us wine.


35 posted on 11/13/2016 8:47:52 AM PST by LydiaLong
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To: Brilliant

The State of Jefferson has been trying to split from Ca.
since before Pearl Harbor.


36 posted on 11/13/2016 8:50:14 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Brilliant

And when they want back in after they collapse, break it up into at least 3 states!


37 posted on 11/13/2016 8:50:23 AM PST by Reily
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To: Brilliant

Maybe the left will start respecting states rights.


38 posted on 11/13/2016 8:50:59 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: Brilliant

They are strangers to the rest of the United States because they made themselves “strange,” obnoxious, and obscene. They are the problem, not the people in “Fly over land.”

There is no reason the U.S. should lose California, its natural resources, farmland, and access to the Pacific ocean. If they don’t like the U.S., They need to leave.

We have some history on this. On attempt to secede, the military moves in, Californians lose the right to vote and self govern until they get their heads straight. In this instance all foreign nationals either choose to return to their place of origin or are relocated to same.

The first Federal directive should be to shut down every Poly-Sci department in every state university and send their Marxist professors to pick produce in the central valley. (To you humorless socialist readers this is called venting.)


39 posted on 11/13/2016 8:51:29 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Brilliant

I tell people to set aside their feelings and do some real research, then decide what they *think*.

Some do listen.

:-)


40 posted on 11/13/2016 8:51:57 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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