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Ensuring Electoral Integrity in 2020
American Thinker ^ | November 10, 2016 | Paul Murphy

Posted on 11/10/2016 6:27:15 AM PST by Kaslin

Al Franken cast the decisive 60th senate vote passing Obamacare and virtually everyone now agrees that his initial election in 2008 was achieved through judicially assisted electoral fraud; Clinton buddy Terry McAuliffe was almost certainly elected by felons and illegals; and my personal prediction is that historians will eventually agree that Obama lost the 2012 presidential election to Romney by about 2.5% of the legal vote.

Democracy depends on the integrity of the secret ballot process and fraud, whether mostly real and extensive or mostly imaginary and minor, cannot be accepted. Electoral reform has to find a place near the top of the new administration's priorities list.

In my pre-retirement life as an info-tech management consultant I generally used and praised products from a company called Sun MicroSystems. Sun revolutionized computing, but came under continual attack from more traditional players like IBM and Microsoft and was eventually forced (mainly, in my opinion, because they hired too many people from failed competitors and then listened to them) to sell its assets into a shelter provided by Oracle Corporation which, much to its credit, has maintained them since.

The reason this matters now is that Sun had, uniquely in its industry, the technology needed to prevent electoral fraud in the United States while dramatically reducing the cost of running elections.

The elections management process looks simple: make a list of voters, prepare the ballots, and check off each voter as they fill out and return exactly one ballot.

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To: Kaslin

I am of the opinion that we need a constitutional amendment that:

- Establishes Federal authority over elections for federal offices.
- Requires states to maintain separate voting rolls for federal elections (no comingling with state voter rolls)
- Requires states to purge the federal voting roll of all voters the first day of the first month following the Presidential Inauguration
- Requires that voters who wish to participate in the next election register no later than 30 days prior to the election
- Requires states to remove from the federal roll any person for which a death certificate has been issued within 30 days
- Requires proof of citizenship and proof of residence to register for the federal voting roll
- Requires states to notify each other when a person changes address (changes drivers license, tax return address. etc)
- Requires a government issued ID to vote


41 posted on 11/10/2016 7:38:43 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: LouAvul

Mandatory phone IDs might not work any more. The Blue states are issuing photo IDs to Illegals, KNOWING they are Illegals. They are probably registering them to vote at the same time (Thanks to to the “Motor Voter” Law).


42 posted on 11/10/2016 7:39:02 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: justlurking

A crypto hash could be generated from a file containing the following:

- date of vote
- location code of the polling station
- ballot number
- list each vote (ballot issue 1, ballot issue 2, etc)

When the person votes, the hash would be generated and given to the voter. State would then have a web page that would allow the person to enter their hash code. If the hash code is found, their votes have been counted.


43 posted on 11/10/2016 7:44:06 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Kaslin

Voting day ID fraud is one thing, but the big problem is registration fraud, which is easily fixed.

There should be a national voter registration database, that state and local boards of elections must use to verify citizenship, and assure that voters are not registered in two or more places at the same time. There also has to be rigorously enforced purges of the dead, convicted felons, etc. There must be a system to get non compos mentis people off the rolls. Something must be done to stop crooks from sealing the votes of elderly and ill people, under the guise of “helping” them.

Most of the early and absentee voting should be stopped.


44 posted on 11/10/2016 8:01:42 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Kaslin

Congress should pass a law ASAP for signature by President Trump which forces the states to purge their voter rolls of ineligibles on a regular basis. It would NOT violate the right/power of states to conduct their own elections, as its purpose would be to ensure both faith in the operation of each national election, and to ensure that the vote of each legitimate voter was not diluted by ineligibles. These things are CLEARLY in the national interest. The law would ONLY apply to those elections in which any candidate for federal office, whether for a primary or general election, was on the ballot.

The specifics would include:

1) A link with the Social Security Death Index and other databases that record deaths, so that anyone who had died would be removed. States would also be required to purge the voter lists of any person born more than 120 years prior to the election, whether there is a death record or not.

2) A link with the INS (or whatever it is called now) to be sure that no non-citizen immigrants are registered to vote.

3) A link between states, to prevent people from voting in one state when they register in a new state of residence.

4) Photo ID required to vote - PERIOD. Photo ID and proof of both age and citizenship required to register to vote - PERIOD.

5) Paper ballots, which are to be kept until at least 3 months after each election in the event of a challenge. No more of this electronic BS, which is subject to hacking or other manipulation.

6) Indelible ink for marking each voter’s right thumb (or left thumb if they don’t have a right thumb, or some other visible portion of their body if they also don’t have a left thumb), so that no person can vote twice.

7) Repeal of “motor-voter” registration. DMVs should stick to automotive matters, and leave voter registration to election boards.

8) SEVERE penalties for engaging in voter fraud. For example, any non-citizen who actually submits a voter registration application, or who votes, is to be immediately and permanently removed from this country, plus pays a fine of $1,000.00 for each ballot EVER cast. Citizens who commit fraud will have a felony record, and be removed from voter rolls permanently. If convicted of engaging in a conspiracy to falsify more than 1 ballot, 1 year in prison for each such ballot, plus a fine of $5,000.00 per ballot.

9) NO provisional ballots - either you are eligible, or you are not. For the few oddball cases, the individuals in question will need to go before an elections judge or the Elections Board in each county or state, and PROVE that they have the right to vote in that particular jurisdiction in the upcoming election - and this must be completed at least 1 week before the election. Also, no more “Same Day Registration” - if you didn’t give a damn enough about registering early enough to have your identity and right to vote verified, then you don’t vote in that election (or go to court for a special exception) - this is too easily subject to fraud.

10) ALL absentee ballots are to be counted, in each such election. Special provisions are to be made to ensure that absentee ballots cast by active duty military are delivered to the appropriate place by the end of voting on Election Day.

I’m somewhat in favor of eliminating early voting, but I don’t think that it would pass Constitutional muster.

NO MORE of this BS. It won’t prevent all cheating, but it will substantially limit it - to the point where it won’t really matter, and won’t really be worth it.

Note that Trump will need to have Scalia’s seat filled QUICKLY by an Originalist - because such legislation WILL be challenged by the ACLU and a host of other Leftist organizations about 5 minutes after being signed into law.


45 posted on 11/10/2016 8:24:23 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“There’s a developing liberal meme, that “Hillary won the popular vote”. But how much of that “winning”, involved the illegal alien vote, and other voter fraud? When will we see election results from Philadelphia, for example? Do they have precincts in which Trump got exactly zero votes, and more votes recorded than registered voters?”


WRT to the popular vote, fraud is irrelevant because the popular vote itself (on a national level) is irrelevant. Yes, popular vote and EVs follow each other on a state level, and usually on the national level, but that’s not what our system is about. Candidates KNOW that this is a race for EVs in 50 states, with the candidate who gets to 270 being the winner. They are NOT campaigning for the most popular votes nationwide, so who CARES who wins that vote? Why should Trump have had to waste any time in CA or MA, for example, or Clinton in TX or OK (or, for that matter, visa-versa)? They campaigned in primarily the battleground states (as each campaign viewed them) BECAUSE THAT IS HOW TO WIN GIVEN OUR EXISTING SYSTEM. Change the system, and candidates will change how and where they campaign to adjust to that new system.


46 posted on 11/10/2016 8:30:23 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: DoodleDawg; Gaffer

“If we had decision by popular vote we’d be talking about President-elect Clinton right now. “


No, not necessarily.

As things stand now, campaigns go after EVs, because that is how you win elections. You need popular vote wins in selected localities, but NOT on a national level.

Change the system to a national popular vote, and campaigns will change how they go after a win.

The national popular vote is irrelevant in the present environment - it is comparing apples and oranges, it is a canard thrown in our faces by the loser of an election, for the sole purpose of delegitimizing the actual winner. Happened with Bush 43, is happening now with Trump.


47 posted on 11/10/2016 8:37:00 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

The person to whom your are addressing thinks Popular vote matters. It patently does not when considered nationally based on pure totals.

Our presidents are elected by the electoral college which consists of electors from all states, not NYC, LA, Miami, SF, Chicago, etc.

The electoral college is a balancing apparatus to protect the interests of widely dispersed STATES of this UNION....not a couple of vastly overcrowded cities.


48 posted on 11/10/2016 8:43:17 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I wonder how many other noticed that this time the big cities started reporting early. I believe they thought they had enough fraudulent votes in place. They did not need to wait for the last minute after everyone else reported to know how many votes they needed. Unfortunately they listened to their own polls. They did it this way due to Trump shining a light on their normal practices.


49 posted on 11/10/2016 8:44:02 AM PST by Kadric
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To: taxcontrol
A crypto hash could be generated from a file containing the following:

LOL, that's EXACTLY what I've been thinking!

I'll add the other part, which isn't actually my idea: There are two things to print: your ballot, and your receipt.

Your receipt has your voter ID and the hash that you mentioned. You can take that home and check it.

Your ballot would have a legible compilation of your votes, so that you can look at it and confirm it is correct. And, it would have a bar code that encodes all the votes.

The bar code on the ballot is then scanned (preferably at the polling place), and only the hash needs to be retained, so that it can be uploaded and checked online. Of course, the paper ballot is retained. And, a recount could be performed by re-scanning the ballots, with the hash preventing duplicates. Any discrepancies would be easy to spot, and provide evidence of where the fraud occurred.

Or, do you think the entire (encoded) ballot should be retained? That would provide the ability to back out a ballot that is found to be fraudulent. But, it would also give someone the ability to discern the contents of a ballot: back it out and look at how the totals changed.

I'll add a couple of other things for consideration: the ballot should be signed with the voting machine's private key. That provides an audit trail back to the specific voting machine. If a bunch of bogus votes are injected into the count, their private key wouldn't be valid.

The voting machine could be relatively simple: a touchscreen and a printer with a Raspberry Pi (a complete computer for $35).

50 posted on 11/10/2016 8:44:57 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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To: taterjay

Your son is very smart. :-)


51 posted on 11/10/2016 10:46:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: justlurking

I like the ideas but do have one caution. The receipt needs to be done in such a way as to prevent someone from using that receipt to see what votes were cast. If that were allowed, it would potentially allow thugs to force a voter to reveal how they voted. Think union thugs coming to a person’s home and taking the receipt and “verifying” their votes or bosses demanding the employee’s hash or be fired.


52 posted on 11/10/2016 11:01:18 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Using binoculars would not have helped.

The dim Election Judge would NOT allow a Poll Watcher to stand behind the Clerk’s table checking in voters.

My point is that all the laws in the world are useless unless you can police and enforce them.


53 posted on 11/10/2016 11:18:00 AM PST by darth
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To: Kaslin

Whatever it is it needs to be able to check with a national database to preclude non-citizen votes and multiple votes.


54 posted on 11/10/2016 11:21:20 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: taxcontrol

Yes, that is an absolute requirement.

I just realized I wrote the wrong thing: the ballot should be ENCRYPTED with the voting machines private key. That way, it cannot be reversed to reveal the contents.

The voting machines ID would be in cleartext (and signed) to provide a lookup into the private. key registry.

This is all off the shelf technology, and public domain. There’s no need to invent anything.


55 posted on 11/10/2016 11:31:55 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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