Posted on 11/03/2016 12:47:44 PM PDT by Jack Black
Over the last few weeks a growing number of people have started wondering, "Is it possible the United States is heading for a new civil war?" Granted, most of those people are writers for sites like Russia Today or the Huffington Post, and thus slightly less credible than a handful of Bazooka Joe gum wrapper comics. But Donald Trump has made a few tinpot dictator-ish statements recently.
And we did just see an anti-government militia get off scot-free for occupying a federal building
Every time I wanted to dismiss those headlines I thought about my visit to Ukraine last year, to cover their ongoing civil war. The most common sentence I heard was, "It's like a bad dream." Up to the minute the shooting started, almost no one thought civil war was a serious possibility.
So instead of waking up one day and screaming, "Holy xxxx, I can't believe I didn't take this possibility seriously," I decided to take the possibility seriously. I talked to David Kilcullen, former Chief Strategist in the State Department's Office of the Coordinator of Counterterrorism. He helped plan the successful "surge" in Iraq, and he's seen a lot of civil wars in his time. He didn't consider a new U.S. civil war likely ... but he was also pretty damn far from ruling it out: "I think what we're seeing now is, what I would describe as a proto-insurgency situation ... the ingredients are out there, if somebody knew what they were doing, [they could] pull together an effective movement."
(Excerpt) Read more at cracked.com ...
The President can pardon someone to shield them from criminal prosecution, but not from impeachment. U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 2, clause 1.
Secession is very possible. The war may or may not happen. I think the USA would be happy to get rid of as many red states as possible without bloodshed.
Entirely incorrect.
The American Revolution was essentially a British civil war, and it was started by men who quite a bit to lose, and most of whom DID lose it throughout the course of the war. Indeed, the only really successful civil wars are those prosecuted by insurgents who either have, or can draw upon, the resources necessary to allow them to outlast the government against which they are fighting.
But then where would they find the large middle class tax base to milk for social programmes and ill-conceived foreign wars?
Americans would not fight another civil war, but we are rapidly filling the country with non-Americans who have no attachment to the nation or culture, who do not share our language or religion, and who think politics is simply a matter of the powerful enriching themselves at the expense of the powerless.
I liked the last article they did but JimRob pulled it for some reason. I may have to go to the office and get on the puter and check this one.
Tax collection is only a punitive measure at this point. There is no correlation between taxation. Spending, revenue and printing money. Taxation is irrelevant(until the crash).
“Our civil wars are now at the ballot box.”
For now, at least.
I see this election as the American people giving ‘the system’ one last chance to fix our problems through civil means. If TPTB decide to take that option from us, all bets are off.
Anything could happen.
We’d get a lot closer to true reporting if cracked.com bought out the failing new jerk Times propaganda rag
Yup, we figured out a way to make the poorest the most obese, something I don’t think has ever happened before. I guess it’s possible but it’s hard for me to imagine sustained revolutions and unrest getting started under those circumstances.
Freegards
Everything depends on whether Hillary “wins.”
If so, she will be the aggressor.
The U.S. government made itself definitively illegitimate on Jan. 22, 1973.
“The American Revolution was essentially a British civil war, and it was started by men who quite a bit to lose, and most of whom DID lose it throughout the course of the war. “
Note: I read over this for spelling and feel the tone might seem angry. Perhaps I am angry, but certainly not at you.
The setting, times and people were entirely different. England was essentially, by that time, an occupying foreign force. The colonists had been fighting Indians and French and others for years. They were trained fighters and thought they had earned their freedom. There were organized, armed trained militias in every small settlement.
Drive along any city street today and look at the riffraff and imagine them as a united, disciplined fighting force. On the streets bordering Florida State University the “men” are wearing makeup and carrying purses. Do you see them going through a Valley Forge experience? I can’t even imagine them going a week without Starbucks coffee and social commentary.
The American Revolution was and is without precedent. They also believed in God and God’s law. Now we have “living laws” that mean whatever the cognoscenti say they mean at that moment. And, probably fifty-five percent of young people believe God is dead. That means God’s law is on life support.
We can’t even get rid of the worst mass murder machine in all of human history, “women’s health care.” Hitler, Pol Pot and Caligula are probably looking up from Hell and thinking, “Gosh, why didn’t we think of calling it health care?”
Another cliché with no basis in fact: “Poverty breeds terrorism.”
Pope Bergoglio says that Muslims commit terrorism in Europe because they spent their first night in Europe on a park bench, because of not enough “welcoming.”
A humor site that has become less funny as they put out a series of articles, nearly daily, on why Trump is worse than the anti-christ.
cracked is click bait crap
It was pretty good until this year when they went all angry SJW anti-Trump stuff.
Thank you for your interesting thoughts.
Sometimes the term “civil war” means any kind of war within a country over the future of their government. But sometimes what is meant is a particular kind of internal war that is very messy and confused. When the colonies revolted, they actually did so under legal structures of government. Similarly, when the South seceded, there were legitimate organs of state governments passing ordinances and levying troops. But what we are discussing here would not be like that.
Well, perhaps a governor somewhere would nullify some federal directive or perhaps some sheriff would arrest an agent of the BATF, but I cannot picture anything like that on a large scale in this country. I am grateful for your insights.
Secession won't happen because we're not a red state/blue state country. We're a red rural/blue urban/purple suburban country.
One detail that I found interesting in this article was choking the cities by preventing the delivery of food. Seems this would be very easy to do and like the article stated, most Americans are only about 9 meals away from not having anything to eat.
Another detail I fund interesting is that it won't be a simple, 2-sided conservative/liberal civil war. It'll be a whole bunch of armed groups that cross the political spectrum all vying for power.
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