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WILDERS HATE SPEECH TRIAL STARTS TODAY
NL Times ^ | October 31, 2016 - 07:49 | Janene Pieters

Posted on 10/31/2016 4:45:46 PM PDT by annalex

Wilders

The criminal trial against PVV leader Geert Wilders starts in the high security court at Schiphol today. Wilders is facing various forms of hate speech charges over statements he made about Moroccans while campaigning in The Hague in 2014. The PVV leader already announced that he will not be attending the trial, calling it a "political process" that should be held in parliament not in court.

The charges against Wilders surrounds statements he made in The Hague during an electionc campaign on March 12th and 19th, 2014. In an interview he gave on the market he said: "Most important is surely the people here on the market (...) We are doing it for these people. They vote for a safer and more social and at least a city with fewer burdens and if possoible some fewer Moroccans."

Then a few days later, in a PVV meeting at a cafe in the city, Wilders said: "I ask you, do you want in this city and in the Netherlands more or fewer Moroccans?" The crowd in the cafe responded by chanting "fewer, fewer, fewer" and Wilders said: "Then we will arrange it."

The fight between Wilders' lawyers and the Public Prosecutor will focus primarily on whether the PVV leader made these statements in a certain context, according to NOS. In other words - was Wilders speaking about all Moroccans, or a limited group such as criminals.

The Prosecutor accuses Wilders of insulting a group of the population and inciting hatred and discrimination with both statements. What makes Wilders statements different from statements by other politicians, according to the Prosecutor, is the context in which the statements were made, or lack thereof in this case.

After the "fewer Moroccans" incident in the Hague cafe, Wilders stated that he obviously only meant Moroccans that cause nuisance. But this statement was only made afterwards and was completely absent during the interview the previous week. According to the Prosecutor, that crosses the line of criminality - Wilders lumped all Moroccan-Dutch together with these statements.

Wilders' lawyer Geert-Jan Knoops will try to convince the judges that Wilders made these statements in a particular context.

The trial is expected to take 12 days, spread over three weeks. If found guilty, Wilders could face prison time. But it is more likely that he will rather be fined or given community service.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: freedomofspeech; geertwilders; moroccans

1 posted on 10/31/2016 4:45:46 PM PDT by annalex
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To: A.A. Cunningham; andyk; AlexW; BatGuano; bayliving; Belteshazzar; bert; Bigg Red; bigheadfred; ...

If you want to be on this right wing, monarchy, paleolibertarianism and nationalism ping list, but are not, please let me know. If you are on it and want to be off, also let me know. This ping list is not used for Catholic-Protestant debates; all confessions are welcome.


2 posted on 10/31/2016 4:46:27 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

He didn’t chop any heads. He just said who did. For this he is arrested? If he is not released the muzzards will chop ten times as many heads.


3 posted on 10/31/2016 4:53:57 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: annalex

islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.


4 posted on 10/31/2016 4:56:18 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Hillary caught on Weiner's device!)
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To: annalex
"...or given community service."

I'd say he's already done his community service

5 posted on 10/31/2016 4:57:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. Yogi Berra)
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Islam is a war plan. And that’s not to condemn the individuals born into it.


6 posted on 10/31/2016 5:01:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Interesting, I know an American family where one of the kids married a Netherlander. They settled in the states and it looks like the rest of the Netherlander’s family has long range plans of following them here.

A good work friend said that all her German relatives have put together a 5 year plan to leave Germany for points world-wide.

Europe and Western Civilization will be no more.


7 posted on 10/31/2016 5:03:01 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: annalex

Criminalizing speech of any kind is the first big step toward totalitarianism. You either have free speech or you have thought control.


8 posted on 10/31/2016 6:18:16 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: annalex

Open and brutal political oppression.

Coming to America...


9 posted on 10/31/2016 6:30:16 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: annalex

How am I not already on this ping list?


10 posted on 10/31/2016 7:10:03 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: annalex

We have to get “hate speech” OUT of our “legal” system. It is an extremely dangerous Marxist/Fascist concept. so the State can make criminals out of anyone they please for subjective reasons.

We already have defamation laws and obscenity laws (although they are not enforced) which is enough. No such thing as “hate” speech and all crimes are “hate” crimes so some should never be treated in more severe manner. It is unequal under the law.

Thought crimes (subjective hate crimes) are NOT ok in a true “justice” system. ACTIONS only are what should be judged.


11 posted on 10/31/2016 7:17:04 PM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: rmlew

It must be against the law?

:)


12 posted on 11/01/2016 4:26:29 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL.


13 posted on 11/01/2016 4:27:56 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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