Posted on 10/13/2016 10:29:32 AM PDT by taildragger
Freepers and Treepers (also here)....
What is your gut and eyes telling you about this race? Forget the polls, landlines are .09 of the aggregate. The Media and The EGOP establishment and all Globalist was DJT destroyed Politically....
Frankly my eyes and my heart tell me different.
Here are some of my Anecdotal stories....
* Airline pilot friend tells me electronic scratch pad to leave the replacement team any squawks on the aircraft has A.B.C. on it, aka Anybody but Clinton.
* Overheard some construction workers yesterday on a campus saying something about "Bill" and then Trump said, and laughter, my take? they were ragging on Bill...
* One of my friends tell me in one of his mens group in MI is a senior doing Uber. He ask his clients who they are voting for not one has said Hilda, they are all for Trump.
* Novi Trump rally ( and so many others ) 1/2 line to get in and we stood in the rain to get in.
Tell me what you see and what your gut tells you....
Lutz's last panel of undecideds were 17 DJT 9 HRC 4 undecided 17/30 -'s 56% for Trump, the same number "Sundance" over @ "ConservativeTreeHouse" says will be Trumps percentage in the general. Ditto that the Straw Poll at the Iowa fair, it was 56% as well...
I look forward to your stories,
E Pluribus Non-Carborundum, Don't let the SOB's wear you down!
I have seen more signs and stickers for Johnson and Stein than I have for Clinton.
I'm in Phoenix now and have seen nothing at all for Hillary.
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My first thought as well. 10,000 for Trump is a small turnout. 5,000 for Mrs. Clinton is a massive one.
I work in Boulder and drive through a residential area on my way to work. In 2008 & 2012 almost every yard had a Obama sign and so far I’ve only seen one Hillary sign.
Yes, that;s what I said, it OVERESTIMATED Romney. It predicted Obama +0.7, and it ended up being Obama +3.9. So there was a pro-Republican poll bias in 2012, even though people here thought there was a pro-Democrat bias.
4 years later, people are complaining again about poll bias, and I'm asking what's your theory on why you think that given what we saw in 2012.
I have seen Trump signs and a large Hillary for Prison sign.
Have a bunch of lib friends who loved Obama, but have reservations about Hillary. Whether or not they go to the polls, I don’t know.
Also, two of them say that the Scooby-van-collapse video leads them to believe she is not well, and probably cannot run the country. Thank God that video came out.
I am in NC...have not seen any HiLIARy signs..actually havent seen many political signs at all, but the few we have seen are Trump/Pence. My neighbors, who are black and 2 time Obama voters told my husband they are voting for Trump. Went to a Trump rally a few weeks back....the place was packed [young, old, middle age, black, white Hispanic]. They said there were protesters but we never saw them. Newspaper had a story on them the following day....I think there were maybe 12 protesters? haha I would say 98% of my FB “friends” are pro Trump...maybe 4 are HiLIARy supporters but never post anything....and the few others are Cruz supporters crying he should have won the nomination. They plan to write in Cruz [smdh]....My eyes and gut say Trump is gonna win in a landslide, but deep down, I am afraid the dems will steal it.
I have yet to have a union construction worker tell me they aren’t voting for Trump or they will vote for Hillary. That covers CA projects I work on from the valley to Oakland. Based on interaction with minorities I think Trump will pull over 15-20% of the black vote and over 30% of the hispanic vote. I’ve seen cars with Sanders stickers that now have Trump stickers beside them.
I feel there is a significant probability he will win CA. People are blathering a lot but when it comes time to pull the lever in that booth people are going to pull for a winner and not a criminal...
I got hoodwinked. I listened to Hewitt, Barone, and the Toe sucker Morris. They were so flippin' out too lunch it wasn't funny. Now, Nate Silver called it via social media in 08' and 12' he was ahead of the curve, that was the juice vote, how and why they oversampled Romney, can only be one thing, They wanted him in the race too suck all the money they could out of him, win or lose, the consultant class got paid, didn't matter what side they were on, their checks didn't bounce. Notice with .09% with landlines even Barone isn't jumping in this time, it is a whole new ball game. No one can call the Trump movement because over 30 years of Political Correctness, and Identity politics have woosified so many as they fear for their jobs like the Founder of Mozilla/Firefox, and dare not speak the truth. One reason I posted this thread is because exogenous factors such as the Rallys, social media etc are telling us something that Barone, Silver and all the media and polls can't, and that is my gut and "Sundance" over @ CTH and his statistical research.
There were lots of Bernie yard signs in my travels (Maine) during the primaries. Most of them stayed up all summer. None have been replaced by Hillary. Doesn’t seem like she is getting Bernie’s people here
Like being a white dude...in Compton.
I bet you have a lot of stories.....
All I can tall u about is my experience of Brexit.
The Polls said remain will win, all the way upto and including vote day, when Remain were 10 points clear. Bookies had Remain winner all the way and just days before u could get over 5/1 against Brexit.
But when u read what people were saying on Blog commentary and to each other, it was hard to find anyone for Remain, except @ London. People who went door to door in the areas outside, found whole streets and towns for Brexit...
So u had exactly the same situation, huge numbers of pissed off people who wanted change, but the Polls and Bookies saying no.
Then when the vote came in, it became clear huge numbers of people voted who had either never voted, or hadn’t voted in decades, so the Pollsters never found them and of course mny Pollsters were happy to go along with the Elite.
As for the Bookies, they admitted days before the Vote. they were getting huge single bets to Remain and lots of small bets to Brexit, as the Remain bets were way larger, they pushed the odds out for Brexit...but each bet only had 1 vote.....
As of now I see an identical situation in the US....all the anecdotal information says a huge Trump vote, but the Polls and Bookies say Hellary wins easily....
ie: just heard that someone in New Jersey, says he can’t find anyone who will vote Hellary !!!!
Hope that helps.
Every black we have met out and about that we have conversed with is voting Trump.
We live an hour from Gay Frisco, and over 50% of the local population are rabid democrats.
Yet we have seen only one Illiarily bumper sticker and yard sign as of yesterday. They belong to a druggy UC Bezerkely former student. Her claim to fame is how she marched against the evil Reagan while at Bezerkely. Her poor husband is fortunately brain damaged from too much football at the high school and college level to realize how evil his wife is.
We see a lot of Hilliarily for jail signs in yards and bumper stickers on pickup trucks
Putting Trump sign in a yard or sticker in your car could be dangerous to you, your home or car.
BREXIT
Trump supporters will crawl over broken glass to vote, Clinton voters will stay home if they see a cloud.
Thanks everyone! great responses and insight, keep them coming, I would love to respond too more of them, will do possibly if I have more time later. Gotta get stuff done!
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