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1 posted on 10/13/2016 4:02:40 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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To: Helicondelta

I thought Russia was “Mother” Russia and Germany was the fatherland.


2 posted on 10/13/2016 4:08:22 AM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Helicondelta
The Democrats are resorting to brinkmanship with Russia in order blame Russia for hacked emails to deflect from their growing email scandals.

It's even on the nuclear weapons level with both USA and Russia.

Perhaps some of the revelations in Hillary's emails are explosive enough to ignite war because a lot of countries are suddenly making some pretty ominous preparations during the final days of the Obama Administration.

3 posted on 10/13/2016 4:10:39 AM PDT by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
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To: Helicondelta
Ever read a book called: "The Third World War: August 1985" by J. Hackett?

Obviously takes place 30 years ago, but I don't think the Russian mind-set is much different today (Russia weaker and NATO weaker - how much is anybody's guess).

5 posted on 10/13/2016 4:14:51 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Are we Being Prepared for World War III?
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/are-we-being-prepared-for-world-war-iii/


6 posted on 10/13/2016 4:16:50 AM PDT by dontreadthis (I finally came up with this tagline)
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To: Helicondelta; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!

7 posted on 10/13/2016 4:18:52 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables.)
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To: Helicondelta

Russian response to article you posted.

“British tabloids go into WWIII frenzy over reported pull-out of Russian officials’ relatives”

https://www.rt.com/news/362511-russian-officials-tabloids-war/

“When asked about the report, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said it was the first time he had heard about the alleged pull-out of officials’ family members.”

I thinks they have nutty journalists in England like they do in the US. Or that the source behind it is Infowars or some other crap.


11 posted on 10/13/2016 4:25:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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I am so relieved that we have Obama and Kerry in charge of our foreign policy


12 posted on 10/13/2016 4:25:26 AM PDT by uncbob
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The NeoCon nutjobs are salivating in anticipation of a long, drawn out, meaningless war with the Ruskies. I wonder if the rules of engagement will be as self-defeating as in the ME.


15 posted on 10/13/2016 4:41:46 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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Beans, rice and ammo time...


18 posted on 10/13/2016 5:05:26 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Helicondelta
We are fighting in places where we have no idea whom we are fighting or why.

For example, we are shooting at Yemen and Yemen is shooting back at our ships. This with the country than Obama pronounced a shining example of his foreign policy. In Yemen we are shooting against a surrogate of Iran on behalf of our surrogate, Saudi Arabia. Iran, in turn, is a surrogate in many respects of Russia which is fighting against some of our forces in Syria on behalf of Asad, virtually a surrogate of Iran. Presumably, we are fighting on behalf of of surrogates of Saudi Arabia in Syria, but we don't know for sure. Essentially we are fighting a surrogate of a surrogate for reasons dear to our surrogate.

Meanwhile, we are halfheartedly arming and supporting Kurds who are in revolt against Turks and all their neighbors. The war against the Kurds by the Turks might well be an occasion for it even closer relationship between Russia and Turkey than the one just announced and so Turkey might well become a surrogate of Russia. In fighting the Kurds our ostensible ally, Turkey, will be fighting against our surrogate (?) The Kurds. But nobody knows for sure what our policy towards the Kurds really is.

We have a similarly muddled policy in Ukraine in which our surrogate, Western Ukraine, is fighting against Russia's surrogate eastern Ukraine and even Russia itself. Again, our policy in Ukraine is utterly incoherent.

Our interest in the Arctic Ocean are being threatened daily by an overt and aggressive expansion by Russia in that area for mineral and oil development. As a corollary to that resource grab, the Russians are threatening our military flights and those of our NATO allies.

As explored in this forum yesterday, Russia has formed an axis of power running from here on to the Mediterranean including parts of Iraq and parts of Syria and also including a harbor on the Mediterranean Sea which now connects the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea with the Mediterranean, with no chance of interdiction by Turkey in the Bosporus in view of Turkey's recent rapprochement with Russia. These naval developments will clearly change the balance of power in the region of the Mediterranean and will no doubt threaten Israel.

Russia is working more closely with China, supplying China with raw materials which, in view of China's recent belligerency mimicking that of Russia in the Arctic in the South China Sea, poses a massive threat to world shipping and the world economy and to our allies in the region. Our policy is utterly in explicable, our allies are rapidly losing confidence in our steadfastness, the Philippines, for example, has jettisoned its relationship with America to some degree in order to cut and appeasement deal with China. Such is the fruit of muddled policy.

Russia has declared an intention to move armaments to Cuba, Venezuela and other Latin American countries in an attempt to change the balance of power in a move similar to the Cuban missile crisis which brought the world the very brink of a Holocaust.

In the wake of all of this, we dare not say anything negative about Putin without appearing to be on forbidden ground, to be against a Trump position.

Our foreign policy is clearly a muddle, it is clearly ineffective and self-defeating, there is no chance that Hillary Clinton will clear the muddle Donald Trump has failed to specify what he would do.


26 posted on 10/13/2016 5:23:29 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack!Â… Bull Halsey)
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To: Helicondelta

It feels like Russia is planning an aggression against a member of NATO. Check that out.


27 posted on 10/13/2016 5:37:12 AM PDT by Rapscallion (OBAMA and Clinton: Defiantly destroying America one deranged decision at a time)
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Our foreign policy is clearly a muddle, it is clearly ineffective and self-defeating, there is no chance that Hillary Clinton will clear the muddle

No, Hillary is on the Russians' side already.

America finds its industries gone, its treasury near bankruptcy, its alliances diminished, and its military hollowed out and making believe we are combat ready.

Russia cannot help but perceive this and Putin knows it is an opportune time to act.

28 posted on 10/13/2016 6:21:09 AM PDT by Rapscallion (OBAMA and Clinton: Defiantly destroying America one deranged decision at a time)
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Last night I saw a tv ad for kits called STOP THE BLEEDING. It’s for use on bad bleeding wounds and the commercial says they’ll soon be in public places. The ad was from Homeland Security.

If Russia is the one doing the hacking then they know what’s coming. Either it’s enough to incite war or it’s emails saying they will start a war to keep Trump from winning.

Now Obama says he make a decision on Syria tomorrow. After being de-balled over his “red line in the sand” comment, look for the .... to hit the fan this time. Our only hope is for the military to rise up against the tyranny and save the nation. Because if we shoot down a Russian plane, or vice versa, it’s game on!

And they’ll do anything to keep the status quo. This could also be Obama’s plan that if Hillary can’t win then he ain’t leaving. A nuclear war would make every politician in DC stand with Obama.


38 posted on 10/13/2016 11:22:22 AM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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Guys, read this closer. The way this site wrote it up is incredibly misleading. The actual announcement isn't about safety, its about appearance of impropriety.

This is targeted at families of state employees. The idea is that Russia is in the midst of an anti-corruption campaign, and it sets a very bad example for children of elites (especially those that are state workers) to be going to school abroad when regular Russians don't typically have that option.

Sort of a "eat your own dogfood" thing. Mostly, I think they send their kids abroad just because they can. In general, Russian education institutions actually tend to be excellent.

43 posted on 10/13/2016 12:53:03 PM PDT by billakay
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