Posted on 10/11/2016 8:07:58 PM PDT by seastay
Clintons email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House lost 22 million emails.
Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email serverits was owned by the Republican National Committee. And the Bush administration failed to store its emails, as required by law, and then refused to comply with a congressional subpoena seeking some of those emails. Its about as amazing a double standard as you can get, says Eric Boehlert, who works with the pro-Clinton group Media Matters. If you look at the Bush emails, he was a sitting president, and 95 percent of his chief advisers emails were on a private email system set up by the RNC. Imagine if for the last year and a half we had been talking about Hillary Clintons emails set up on a private DNC server?
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“Bill Clinton demanded the resignation of EVERY US Attorney on the day he took office.”
Not true. He kept one on.
Michael Chertoff.
That is 100%, manifest crap.
Our best intelligence agencies have been hacked. Some third rate ISP/email service with known classified material was an absolute sitting duck, and I can tell you, with almost 40 years experience in information technology, coding, and system security, if the best hackers in the world went after this server and did not want to be discovered, the FBI itself would never be able to detect it. And this is doubly true when you consider how thoroughly they scrubbed this server. These boxes were formatted down to the metal, random bitmap erased, and everything was reinstalled.
The FBI's claim that they found no trace of hacking is a completely vacuous assertion designed to simultaneously cover their own sorry asses and Hillary!'s® as well.
He demanded EVERY ONE. He did not accept all of them.
This has to be true as the MS Media says so. give us a freaking break you morons.
If there is no moral equivalence....Leftists will make it up anyway. They are NEVER fact checked.
And you might add that NOT ONE of the tens of thousands of recovered emails was about yoga, Chelsea’s wedding or Mrs Rodham’s funeral. NOT ONE!
The emails the Democrats were looking for were emails they hoped had some dirt on them they could use to identify interrogators and CIA assets, as I recall, so they could pursue a war crimes charge against their political opponents for waterboarding a couple of terrorists that the leading Dems knew were being waterboarded all along, Nancy Pelosi’s pleas of ignorance notwithstanding. Problem is, when Democrats had been given intel on interrogation of terrorists at Gitmo, it wasn’t too long after that when that info was found in the wrong hands... because they were leaking it for political rather than human rights purposes.
What Hillary was doing in addition to violating the protocols imposed on others in the State Department- was allowing other violators to be punished for the same violations she was guilty of. An ambassador under her watch got nailed for emailing something classified.
The Bush admin also wasn’t emailing classified intel to their home computers, or to people who did not have the clearances. They may have used one system for personal/RNC emails and a secure system for government work emails, so as to not mix party activity with the government system for personal communications. Nothing wrong with that, actually that’s a good thing. But there’s no evidence they ever emailed anything classified on either government or RNC/private systems because email is considered unsecure.
Hillary’s computerguy wasn’t cleared to have access to the materials contained in some of Hillary’s emails, nor would he need clearances if her private server had only been used for private or DNC work and not government work; problem was, Hillary was mixing the two types of communications on one server... so he SHOULD have been cleared for it. Maybe the reason he wasn’t cleared for it was because Hillary did not want anyone to wonder why he’d need a security clearance for managing a private account. Hillary made it even worse because she instead of handing over the drives which contained government property - OUR property - shr passed the memory flashdrives to her lawyer, who also had no security clearance. The company she hired to scrub her computers also wasn’t cleared for classified data of that level, and she had info of the highest classification levels on her system it was later found. Furthermore, Hillary’s staff removed classified headers; no such thing was suspected of occuring in the previous admin.
No one in the previous admin refused to turn over anything with the false claim it was only about yoga.
Obama’s admin, don’t forget, included more than just Hillary’s email escapades, so there’s no upper limit on what’s been destroyed in the Obama admin. Take the IRS for example- where staffers were not using their official email addresses but instead were using misleading aliases... and where what, SIX computers of six accused conpirators in the abuse of power/political persecutions of religious and tea party organizations mysteriously had their hard drives scrubbed and crashed the same day. How many emails were on those drives? How many other inappropriate documents?
Eventually, the Bush White House admitted it had lost 22 million emails, not 5 million. Then, in December 2009well into Barack Obamas administrationthe White House said it found 22 million emails, dated between 2003 and 2005, that it claimed had been mislabeled. That cache was given to the National Archives, and it and other plaintiffs agreed, on December 14, 2009, to settle their lawsuit. But the emails have not yet been made available to the public.
The Washington Post, in an editorial, accepted the White House explanation that the emails could have been lost due to flawed IT systems.
The e-mails weren’t deleted at all. The headline says “lost” for a reason. The 22 million e-mails were lost, but then found later. They still exist, but are restricted enough so they cannot be seen by the public for several years yet. There appear to be some suspicions that Cheney deleted a small number of e-mails relating to Iraq, but the article offers no proof of that and claims they can’t know until they’re allowed to search through the 22 million e-mails.
Besides, pointing to someone else and saying, "He did it too!" is no defense at all. It's the kind of excuse criminals use.
Oops, I confused two controvercies... the waterboarding snipe hunt case was a different case not involving the RNC emails.
IIRC, archiving executive emails is required, but access to them is restricted until years later (2020 or thereabouts for GWB).. the thinking being that it is in the national interest to document the ongoings in the white house and allowing earlier access would lead to abandoning email and loss of the discussions/decision-process.
Evidence?
Great reply!
It pretends that the reported loss of documents occurred because of FOIA and other requests in relation to the putative "outing" of Valerie Plame and the WMD evidence leading up to the Iraq War. Those requests did not come until long after the emails were reported missing. Much of that material, even when found, would never have been released. It wasn't on private servers and involves assets and methods and will remain classified for at least five more years.
Patrick Fitzgerald didn't request them, and didn't need them anyway. He knew when he accepted the special prosecutor's job who the "leaker" was; everyone in Washington knew.
The original request was the result a subpoena from Patrick Leahy, "investigating" the firing of nine US attorneys. He had nothing to "investigate" because the US attorneys serve at-will; consequently, he had no right to the political documents that might -- and might not -- have been related to the firings.
In any case, Leahy's request did not involve government business, and it didn't involve the mishandling of classified material, either.
This is bullet point nine in the standard Clinton playbook: "everybody lies about classified material|sex|tossing dead guys' offices|cronyism|catastrophic illness|cattle futures (or whatever is next.)" They've already tried: "Colin did it..." "Condi did it..." and were decisively smacked down.
All I know is that Michael Chertoff was the only one not fired.
True, there’s no proof that there was any classified information at risk. And Bush isn’t running.
Like the rest of democrat talking points, this one misses the central fact. Those “lost” Bush emails were not used for Top Secret code word material. Hillary intentionally and recklessly misshandled sensitive material, the disclosure of which posed an exceptionally grave threat to the security of the United States.
#6. Thanks for the Burleigh history. “She has no credibility” but I’ll wager she still has her kneepads.
Burleigh wrote a book: A VERY PRIVATE WOMAN about John F. Kennedy’s mistress Mary Meyer who was murdered on the canal towpath in Georgetown, DC less than a year after JFK’s assassination.
The guilty party was a Black guy named Crump. Burleigh can’t deny the overwhelming evidence that Crump put two bullets in Mary Meyer but cannot come out and say that his trial was a reverse TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. In Crump’s trial an all-Black DC jury lets him walk free. It was a foreshadowing of OJ’s trial.
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