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'It just got much more complicated': Why the discovery of HMS Terror only raises more questions
CBC News website ^

Posted on 10/11/2016 9:07:48 AM PDT by jerod

Mystery still surrounds what happened after the Franklin Expedition ships were abandoned in 1848

Even though HMS Terror has been found, the wreck's discovery in no way marks the end of the mystery surrounding how the Franklin Expedition met its grim demise in the mid-19th century in the icy waters of what is now Nunavut.

As much as its location had been long sought, the wreck's revelation last month only serves up more questions about the ill-fated British polar mission led by John Franklin in search of the elusive Northwest Passage.

"It's not like it's a solution," says Russell Potter, author of the recently released Finding Franklin, The Untold Story of a 165-Year Search.

"It's like it just got much more complicated. Somebody dropped a huge bag of evidence that you have to wait to open."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; erebus; franklinexpedition; ggg; hmserebus; hmsterror; johnfranklin; northwestpassage; unitedkingdom
""Was [Terror] indeed re-manned at some point, as would appear to be the case with the Erebus?" wonders Harris."

Well, let's face it... The crew didn't re-man the ship and the only other humans in existence were the local indigenous Inuit (probably recognized in your country as Eskimos). BTW - We have an NFL team called the Eskimos, so the Red Skins aren't the only football team with a politically incorrect name problem.

Anyway, they found this lost ship in a bay named ‘Terror’ well over 100 kilometers south of where it was originally abandoned. Oddly enough the ship is named ‘Terror’ too… Hmmm!

The mast of the ship was sticking up out of the water and was as obvious as the nose on your face, yet it was only recently found buy a local Inuit scout who maintained its secrecy for several years because he thought nobody would believe him… Hmmm! So when he found employment with an expedition to locate the Franklin he remembered the location and led them where he had earlier found a ship mast sticking out of the water.... Hmmm!

My thinking is that when more and more Europeans arrived looking to cash in on a reward for locating the lost Franklin expedition, there was a narrative developed amongst the local Inuit to cover up the true facts. The Franklin expedition didn't die through a lack of food and starvation, supposedly eating each other in the end to satisfy their hunger... They were in fact killed off by the one or several hunting parties of the local Inuit populations (not that there's anything wrong with that) because let's face it, not many Inuit if any had ever seen a white face in their lives. They were understandably threatened when they witnessed two very large ships full of strangers stranded in the ice and likely waited for the ships crews to become desperate and their numbers to deplete (mostly from disease because their canned rations were contaminated with led) before slowly attacking them until they were all were dead, thereby eliminating an obvious threat to their existence.

They then somehow managed to navigate the ships with whatever remaining ‘foodstuffs’ were left on board to a more southern point on King William Island, abandoning the ships on the western side of the Island and then traversed to their more permanent settlements on the eastern side. The Franklin sunk where they abandoned it, while the Erebus managed to somehow stay afloat and drifted farther south.

Now of course this is just a theory, but when it comes to piecing together the unknown fate of an expedition abandoned 168 years ago in search of a shipping route that still doesn’t actually exit 168 years later, my guess is as good as yours.

1 posted on 10/11/2016 9:07:48 AM PDT by jerod
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Good summary and hypothesis jerod.
However, spell check is not your friend. “Buy” and “led” are words but not the ones you wanted.
2 posted on 10/11/2016 9:20:15 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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Hmm, I am told that all indigenous people did was be peaceful, sit around smoking a peace pipe and being one with nature before evil europeans showed up.


3 posted on 10/11/2016 9:20:53 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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Fascinating. Saw a show on this not too long ago. Thanks.


4 posted on 10/11/2016 9:26:15 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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Tks... I will work on that.


5 posted on 10/11/2016 9:32:18 AM PDT by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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My thinking is that when more and more Europeans arrived looking to cash in on a reward for locating the lost Franklin expedition, there was a narrative developed amongst the local Inuit to cover up the true facts........not many Inuit if any had ever seen a white face in their lives.

They probably had ancestral memories of VIKINGS, and most likely thought these were Vikings coming back to stay..............

6 posted on 10/11/2016 9:34:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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Erebus and Terror wrecks found map

Image result for map of northern western hemisphere

7 posted on 10/11/2016 9:37:36 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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A painting by Admiral Sir George Back showing HMS Terror anchored near a cathedral-like iceberg in the waters around Baffin Island


"Erebus" and "Terror" in New Zealand, August 1841, by John Wilson Carmichael


HMS Terror was found off the south coast of King William Island, highlighted.

8 posted on 10/11/2016 9:42:06 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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>>Hmm, I am told that all indigenous people did was be peaceful, sit around smoking a peace pipe and being one with nature before evil europeans showed up.

It’s true! Just like sub-Saharan Africa had marvelous crystal cities with electricity powered by the sun until white men with clubs and stone-tipped spears defeated the super-advanced black race and destroyed the cities.


9 posted on 10/11/2016 10:24:46 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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Try looking up the Karankawa Indians from Texas. As a child, I'm 65 now, We had to pick an Indian tribe to write a paper on and I chose the Karankawa. When I started to read my paper about them being cannibals, the teacher became upset because she was hoping for the poor misunderstood peaceful beings treated poorly by whites. Well, the Texans had enough of the war parties and sent out raids to just murder them "just because". The Federal government even got involved to hunt down the last of the last to eliminate all of them. They never were much on smoking pipes and communing with nature, but more like sitting around a fire slicing off pieces of settlers and roasting the meat and eating them in front of the person being eaten.

I'm sure it was the beginning of ISIS./sarc

10 posted on 10/11/2016 10:42:32 AM PDT by chuckles
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It’s true! Just like sub-Saharan Africa had marvelous crystal cities with electricity powered by the sun until white men with clubs and stone-tipped spears defeated the super-advanced black race and destroyed the cities.

lol. Yes I heard that as well. Advanced civilizations around the world turned back in time by colonists so much that they still suffer today. (NM, that American, NZ, Australia, and Hong Kong were colonies tooo...)

11 posted on 10/11/2016 10:50:31 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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The Stan Rodgers song is worth a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TVY8LoM47xI


12 posted on 10/11/2016 12:36:28 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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They then somehow managed to navigate the ships...

That's quite a 'somehow' for a culture which didn't even have the sail.

13 posted on 10/12/2016 1:38:02 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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