Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Dinosaurs in Noah’s vineyard (carvings at 14th century church)
Creation Ministries International ^ | 6-19-16 | David Lewis

Posted on 09/19/2016 1:18:28 PM PDT by fishtank

Dinosaurs in Noah’s vineyard

by David Lewis

The carving (see image at right), which appears to show two dinosaurs, is on an outside wall of the bell-tower of a fourteenth century church in the Republic of Georgia. Holy Trinity Church (also known as Tsminda Sameba) is on Mount Gergeti, near Stephantsminda village, in the Mount Kazbegi area—close to the borders with North Ossetia and Ingushetia.

When I visited this area in 2006 and saw the carvings, I asked a Georgian cleric at the church what they depicted. He commented that they looked like dinosaurs, and he had no idea when or why they were carved on the bell-tower....

...Creationists have often suggested that many stories of ‘dragons’ (also often labelled ‘serpents’) are likely inspired by actual sightings of living dinosaurs, distorted through time and retelling.4 If so, these carvings from Georgia are consistent with medieval engravings and sculptures, from as far away as Britain and Cambodia, showing what look just like known types of dinosaurs.5

Inside the church is also an icon depicting St. George slaying a (snake-like) dragon

Just as dodos, mammoths and other well-documented living creatures that were contemporary with humans subsequently became extinct, the same happened to the descendants of the various kinds of dinosaurs that were on Noah’s Ark.

(Excerpt) Read more at creation.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: derp; dinosaurs; holyland; losers; pathetic; youngearth
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last
To: Tax-chick

Could be they’ve come across dinosaur fossils in the past.


41 posted on 09/19/2016 2:26:17 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: treetopsandroofs

There’s also one out there of a ‘squatch hanging upside down with a possibly late 1800s hunter posed with it.


42 posted on 09/19/2016 2:33:58 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: JimSEA

“Pretty tricky to arrange things to uniformly support deep time and evolution.”

Well, they’re not arranged to uniformly support it. However, if you dismiss anything out of place as an intrusion of later strata, then you can make it seem that way. Since you’ve already decided what the sequence should be, you don’t need any other evidence to dismiss such things besides that they don’t fit your preferred sequence. Isn’t circular reasoning fun?


43 posted on 09/19/2016 2:38:54 PM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Roman_War_Criminal

I fully expected naysayers, even on a conservative forum.

In this regard, they’re no different than the most radical leftist.

What invention of the mind could come up with giant lizards without an impetus of reality attached to it?


44 posted on 09/19/2016 2:42:14 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: dware

California condors


45 posted on 09/19/2016 2:50:06 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: fishtank
Fred Flintstone and Dino photo: Fred Flintstone fredflintstone.jpg
46 posted on 09/19/2016 2:53:07 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

See, scientific method is used and ignored almost equally between the political groups.
The left believes in the unscientifically garnered pseudoscience of GoreBull worming and some on the right insist that the earth is 5000 years old and that Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs like Alley Oop (google it kids).

Science is science and politics is politics. And grant money is grant money.... Now there’s the manage au trois that really screws things up.


47 posted on 09/19/2016 2:59:28 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Oberon

Your HTML must be wrong.

I don’t see ANYTHING in that picture.

It’s all blank.


48 posted on 09/19/2016 3:01:38 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
Human history is permeated with accounts of the existence of “dragons.” Where would these accounts originate, if not from eyewitness encounters with dinosaurs?

Well, obviously, from eyewitness accounts of dragons. Where else?

49 posted on 09/19/2016 3:20:17 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: fishtank

Probably dragons, potentially informed by real bones of real dinosaurs. Georgia isn’t called, “Georgia” by Georgians. The people of Georgia ( who call themselves “Kartvelos”) call the land, “Sekartvalia,” or “land of the Kartvelos.” It’s not certain where Georgia gets the name, “Georgia,” but it surely stuck among the English (whose patron saint is Saint George) because of its association with St. George.

They do generally look like dinosaurs from a modern perspective, but which? Head butting was a thing among pachysephalosaurs, they have the same body shape, but wouldn’t they have famously coulder-like tails. And why would a 14th-century church remember dinosaurs 4,000 years after the flood better than a church built 4,300 years after the flood?

A more likely interpretation, if not dragons, would be the ancient mythological creatures for whom “salamanders” are named. Believed to be impervious to fire, they were thus associated with purgatory, and in turn, thus a common topic of medieval art. I’m not sure why a salamander would be depicted butting heads, but they were usually depicted with curly tails.


50 posted on 09/19/2016 3:21:48 PM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman

A curled tail does not suggest a prehensile tail. But they don’t seem similar to medieval monkey drawings that I’ve seen. Then again, I haven’t seen much in the way of Georgian medieval art, which for all I know could have very separate artistic heritage, given Georgia’s remote-from-the-West location.


51 posted on 09/19/2016 3:23:45 PM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
Human history is permeated with accounts of the existence of “dragons.” Where would these accounts originate, if not from eyewitness encounters with dinosaurs?

Hillary's a time traveller as well as shape-shifter?

52 posted on 09/19/2016 4:11:31 PM PDT by sphinx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: fishtank

The look like giant sloths. But again, they were not big in that area.


53 posted on 09/19/2016 5:02:40 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

I’ll never understand what Wilma saw in Fred.


54 posted on 09/19/2016 5:06:42 PM PDT by Zirondelle ("disce aut discede")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman

Where are the fossils of the flying dragons?


55 posted on 09/19/2016 5:07:55 PM PDT by TexasGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick

Kinkajous? opposums? Of course, both inhabited different continents...


56 posted on 09/19/2016 8:32:57 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

It could even be an attempt at a horse.


57 posted on 09/20/2016 2:52:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: fishtank

Sorry... it’s a little slow to load.


58 posted on 09/20/2016 3:10:36 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman
...the New World had not been discovered in the 14th century...

Depends on who you ask. :D

59 posted on 09/20/2016 3:11:27 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: ifinnegan

That he created the world in 6 days, and took a rest on the 7th. He then gives us a full account of people’s genealogy, from Adam to Noah, Moses, and onward to Christ. Putting the ages + time of births together on a time line allows one to accurately calculate the amount of time during history Before Christ.

And yes, God did not physically write the Bible. Men did through His inspiration. “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.” - 2 Timothy 3:16-17


60 posted on 09/20/2016 5:18:11 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson