Posted on 09/15/2016 11:28:04 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp
Theres something very odd about the diagnosis that Dr. Lisa Bardack has presented for her patient Secretary Hillary Clinton, it doesnt exist.
As you can see from the two-page letter presented today by Hillary Clintons doctor, she has been diagnosed with mild non-contagious bacterial pneumonia. However, theres a problem
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OK, this is starting to annoy me.
Yes, there are two "pneumonia shots". Tell us what, exactly, they prevent, and then tell us of all the bacterial pneumonias in adults, what % of them are preventable by these vaccinations.
If you can't do that, you never should have made the above statement.
Brian Williams was there and swears it’s true!.....
“.....news reports on Sunday and Monday indicated a number of her staff were sick with whatever...so was it pneumonia? flu? something else?”......
Perfect example of anyone having close contact with Hitlary becoming “contaminated”. Those around her must all be allergic to bull sh&t.
After starting a course of antibiotics, the length of time you remain infectious can vary. However, you are usually no longer infectious 24 hours after starting antibiotics. http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/2561.aspx?CategoryID=73&SubCategoryID=108
Bacterial pneumonia always starts out contagious. If not, how did the person catch it? But after taking antibiotics it is no longer contagious. Clinton’s medical statement is technically correct. But it was clearly written by the Clinton PR department in the Clinton style rather than be the doctor who signed off on the PR statement.
Even when the truth is with the Clintons they cannot help themselves from trying to obfuscate the truth.
But note how anti-Clinton people are distracted by this obfuscation from the important topics. The obfuscation worked. The Clinton PR people succeeded. The anti-Clinton people got suckered into a no-win situation on an irrelevant detail.
I was diagnosed with bacterial pneumonia two days after inhaling a piece of tuna. I was eating in bed. It took me two courses of antibiotics to kick it. I was not contagious. It’s a very common diagnosis for old people in nursing homes who aspirate food while eating in bed, as it turns out.
You have only to do a search of bacterial pneumonia to see that there is such a diagnosis. It’s kooky to pursue this line of thought. I don’t believe Hillary has bacterial pneumonia but there’s no question that there is such a diagnosis.
It is ironic that Hillery can lie about her medical condition, but it will still kill her.
It sounds oxymoronic. How did she get it?
I wondered if she’d received the pneumonia vaccine. Where did you read she had gotten it? (TIA)
This whole scenario is outlandish beyond reason.
Don’t forget her blood clot history
Hill’s Blood Clot could have been life threatening
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/hillary-clinton-blood-clot-life-threatening-medical-experts/story?id=18101213
I find it rather odd that we are debating what type of pneumonia she has when she doesn’t have pneumonia. Regardless of bacterial/non-bacterial/viral, etc., one does not ‘recover’ this quickly. From collapse to walking from Chelsea’s apt. smiling and waving in 90 minutes? Please.
I read Mish Medlocks blog this morning and he had a few doctors offering opinions, the best and most reasonable was from Dr. Zadeh, who ruled out Parkinson’s but did offer the following:
Comments From M.D. Zadeh
Hi Mish
It looks like you got two doctors commenting and now you will have a third. While I dont disagree with the doctors opinions given what was presented, I think some of the facts presented to the public are in question.
Let me go over some basic things. When you have a blood clot in the brain, the biggest danger is that blood flow to that section of the brain is cut off and brain tissue dies; that is a stroke. If there is a blood clot causing symptoms and the clot gets dissolved or breaks away such that blood flow is not permanently interrupted, that is called a transient ischemic (without oxygen) attack or TIA or mini stroke.
However, there are also very small strokes that destroy brain tissue at the microscopic level. Those are called lacunar infarctions and they often result in a type of dementia called vascular dementia. Not to get too technical, but vascular dementia also is overlapped by a process called Lewy Body dementia which is basically a mixture of Alzheimers dementia and Parkinsons.
I think people pointing to Parkinsons dont get what Lewy body and vascular dementia are: forms of dementia with Parkinsonian features that wax and wane depending on blood flow. If there is diminished blood flow to the dopamine producing parts of the brain: Parkinson symptoms can occur but vanish once blood flow is restored. Hilary wouldnt have gotten through the election campaign with full blown Parkinsons, but she could have gotten by with hiding early vascular/Lewy body dementia IMO, and that is what I suspect is going on with her.
The thing I have told people is once you have blood clots gumming up your brain, things dont get better. This is a progressive problem and as someone who has extensively studied coagulation, the notion put out by HRCs staff that you put someone on blood thinners, the clot dissolves because of the blood thinner, and a person has a full recovery is complete baloney. A disruption in blood flow to the brain is going to be followed by continued disruptions in blood flow, and I know of no treatment to stop it in a case like HRCs that involves smaller blood vessels.
When you have a neurovascular issue causing dysphagia (difficulty swallowing which is what causes her to cough), seizures (the reason for the staff caring around the Valium or diazepam pen), and weakness, those are REALLY bad signs. IMO she is a ticking time bomb to have a major and debilitating stroke.
With Hiliarys pneumonia, a doctor saying so is completely inadequate. How was it diagnosed? Was an acid fast stain done? Were mycoplasma titers or cultures performed? What was the level of cold agglutins? Furthermore, if HRC was diagnosed with mycoplasma or walking pneumonia, why was she allowed to come in contact with a child when this disease is known to be contagious? And what did her chest x-ray look like? She should have had one to be diagnosed with pneumonia.
Bear in mind that when you have weakness with pneumonia, it usually is due to dehydration and causes orthostasis (dizziness when getting up). If HRC were going from sitting to standing and needed support, I could buy the dehydration/pneumonia story. But she was already standing and then went limp. That is most likely a neurological problem not a hydration one.
People should be clamoring to see the chest x-ray and lab results for HRC. To me the most damning finding would be a normal white blood cell count, a negative acid fast stain, normal tiitre ratio of cold agglutins, and an infiltrate in the middle lobe of the right lung. That would be strongly suggestive that HRC has aspiration pneumonitis due to dysphagia from an underlying neurovascular issue and that the walking pneumonia diagnosis was pure bunk. But I would be shocked if we see the lab or X-ray results.
Bottom line though is I said HRC had serious medical issues to someone a month ago, and recent events have fortified that opinion. If the Dems handle HRCs health issues as a conspiracy or a malicious Trump plot versus truthful full disclosure, IMO they are giving the election to Trump. For the Dems to win in November, they need to get a new candidate yesterday.
Joseph Zadeh
Here is the link for the rest of the comments: https://mishtalk.com/2016/09/14/late-stage-lying-pneumonia-theory-vs-parkinsons-disease-theory/
Per Jim Noble and I agree
Many bacterial pneumonias are non-contagious (you cant catch them from another person).
Legionnaires disease, aspiration pneumonia, and post-obstructive pneumonia are three examples.
These threads are pushing a false idea to accuse HRC of lying, when shes told so many real lies worth going after.
There are at least 2 shots that people can receive to prevent bacterial pneumonia, and she had them Sooo how did she even contract bacterial pneumonia?
OK, this is starting to annoy me.
Yes, there are two “pneumonia shots”. Tell us what, exactly, they prevent, and then tell us of all the bacterial pneumonias in adults, what % of them are preventable by these vaccinations.
If you can’t do that, you never should have made the above statement.
I don’t know about the others you pinged in your post, but I really don’t appreciate coming home after long day and seeing this type of snark—well it really transcends snark and was nasty and demanding...
My initial comments were not directed to you, and I have no intention to provide you any info because you did not ask—you demanded in a less than polite way. As it is I have taken too much time writing this.
wondered if shed received the pneumonia vaccine. Where did you read she had gotten it? (TIA)
This whole scenario is outlandish beyond reason.
The media lemmings have moved on to the birther issue now, so I guess her health as an issue is over...at least until her next seizure...
Perfect example of anyone having close contact with Hitlary becoming contaminated. Those around her must all be allergic to bull sh&t.
Legionnaires disease, aspiration pneumonia, and post-obstructive pneumonia are three examples.
These threads are pushing a false idea to accuse HRC of lying, when shes told so many real lies worth going after.
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Thank you for saying this Jim Nobel. Drama over something this insignificant when there are so many giant targets....
thnx for this guys ...
i was diagnosd with a non-contagious bacterial pneumonia this spring (not mild) and was hospitalized for a week. visitors had to do the gown and mask thing for thew first three days while they tried to grow sputum, blood, and nasal cultures.
finally, the infectious disease doc said they couldn't get anything interesting to sprout so he pronounced me non-contagious, tho it still took 10 days of iv antobiotics and steroids to clear it up.
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