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Tim Kaine's Dangerous Liaisons
Townhall.com ^ | September 11, 2016 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 09/11/2016 4:40:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

The New York Times Sept. 4 feature on Tim Kaine1, shows that his year in Honduras introduced him not to Jesus Christ, but to Karl Marx.

The story doesn't say that, exactly, but connect the dots with a little history, and an alarming picture emerges of Kaine's adventures with radicals and revolutionaries in 1980s Latin America.

The Times notes that in Honduras: “Mr. Kaine embraced an interpretation of the gospel, known as liberation theology...”

This wasn't mainstream “Catholic thought” at the time. It was a radical, Marxist-based ideology at odds with the Church, the pope, and the United States, but supportive of (and supported by) the Soviet Union.

To counter Vatican opposition to this theology, now published documents from the Soviet and East German archives show “active measures” were undertaken to undermine the Vatican and the pope – key barriers to a Soviet influence in Latin America.2

Tim Kaine's political formation wasn't pro-American or pro-Catholic, it was pro-Soviet.

Journalistic3 and academic4 research has now shown that Liberation Theology itself was quite possibly a product of a Kremlin disinformation campaign designed to undermine the Church and bring Catholic countries into the Soviet sphere. The top-ranking Soviet Bloc defector of the Cold War, Gen. Ion Pacepa admits that he was personally involved in the operation.5

And contrary to the myth, this was never Pope Francis' theology of choice.

According to Argentine Jesuits, he was never favorable to Marxist-tinged theology. Open to debate, yes. A proponent, no.

In 2005, he directly discussed “Liberation Theology,” “Christian socialism” and other “revolutionary” ways of thinking, saying: “After the collapse of 'real socialism,' these currents of thought were plunged into confusion. Incapable of either radical reformulation or new creativity, they survived by inertia, even if there are still some today who, anachronistically, would like to propose [them] again.”

Liberation Theology's recent second wind has been achieved by disavowing its Marxist roots. Francis' doctrinal chief Cardinal Mueller is seen as friendly, but stated: “true liberation theology is opposed to Marxism.”

That wasn't the case in the 1980s. Then, Kaine embraced not some reconstituted, post-Marxist version, but the hardcore, Cold War variety – an avowed Marxist ideology inimical to the institutional Catholic Church and to the United States.

Just how hardcore were his Jesuit teachers? Well, around the time Kaine was there, Jesuits were arrested for gunrunning, and, the next year, the Honduran government banned any more American Jesuits from coming to that country because of their left-wing activism.6 They also expelled one American-born Jesuit, who also had to leave that religious community because he was too radical even for them. That priest was Father Jim Carney, and he was the one the New York Times us tells Kaine sought out across the border in Soviet-supported Nicaragua, taking a bus and then walking several miles to meet him.

Carney was a full-blown revolutionary. The Times says his death was “murky” and hardened Kaine's distrust of American involvement in the region.

What isn't murky is what led to his death. In 1983, Carney was part of a 96-man unit that invaded Honduras to bring the Nicaraguan's Communist revolution there too. The insurgents were Cuban and Nicaraguan trained and led by Jose Reyes Mata, Cuban-educated, and Honduras' top Marxist.7 Reyes Mata had previously served with Che Guevara in Bolivia.

After a firefight with Honduran troops, Reyes Mata was captured and killed. Carney was reported dead too. Some think he was captured and killed too. Kaine worried about American complicity in an extrajudicial killing, but he didn't seem bothered by Carney's participation in a Communist-sponsored insurgency and invasion of Honduras.

The Nicaraguan Sandinistas had been founded by KGB operative Carlos Fonseca.8 Eastern Bloc archives also show they were supported massively by the Cubans, Soviets and East Germans – with guns, ammunition, money, prison building, etc. They were brutal too, with more political prisoners than any other country in the region but Cuba. Some prisoners were executed by being hacked to death, or by being flayed alive. Others had family members sexually assaulted in front of them. By every measure, the atrocities the Sandinistas committed were far worse than the dictatorship they had replaced.9

What blocked them from total victory was the Reagan administration and the Catholic Church.

Why Kaine felt the need to go Nicaragua, and meet a friend of violent revolutionaries is murky.

But his relationship with Carney's successor, Father Melo, continues in the open. Melo, incidentally, wants to redistribute land throughout Latin America by 2021.

Did Kaine's mentors teach him the art of Soviet disinformation – call yourself the very thing you seek to undermine and try to destroy it from within?

If that is what he's doing, does it apply just to his faith, or to his country as well?

In Virginia he ran a moderate and ruled as a liberal.10 Today he runs as a “Pope Francis” Catholic but on abortion and marriage, Kaine opposes Francis.

On the conscience rights of groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor, Kaine sided with Obama. Francis sided with the Little Sisters, whom he visited in Washington a year ago to publicly show his support.

As in the 1980s, Kaine's “Catholicism” serves neither his Church nor his country, but a Leftist political agenda that has proven to be on the wrong side of the Church, on the wrong side of history, and against the interests of freedom and the United States.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2016veep; carlosfonseca; carney; cheguevera; communists; cuba; cubans; fathermelo; fonseca; guevera; honduras; humanrights; jimcarney; josereyesmata; kgb; liberationtheology; malo; mata; nicaragua; reyesmata; sandinistas; timkaine; torture

1 posted on 09/11/2016 4:40:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

He’s a degenerate commie scumbag.


2 posted on 09/11/2016 4:45:17 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Kaslin

My GAYDAR goes off everytime I see him....he CREEPS me out!!


3 posted on 09/11/2016 4:48:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin
Can you imagine Pope John Paul II grinning as he accepts a Communist crucifix?


4 posted on 09/11/2016 4:53:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin
Liberation theology has been, is and always will be heresy.
Too bad the current Pope is soft on it.
5 posted on 09/11/2016 4:58:37 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Kaslin

I think he was part of an experiment where they mixed human and rodent DNA. Made him a natural to become a “Rat”....


6 posted on 09/11/2016 5:04:01 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Kaslin

Jeremiah Wright was a proponent of liberation theology and Nobama soaked it all up for 20 years. Didn’t make a difference in how he was viewed. Doubt it will make a difference in how Kaine is viewed.

But interesting info, nonetheless.


7 posted on 09/11/2016 5:07:44 AM PDT by randita
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To: Ann Archy

On Chicago Talk Radio Little Timmy is known as ‘the suburban Dad on the down-low’. Based on all of these factors, he would fit in nicely at Rev Wright’s church.


8 posted on 09/11/2016 6:02:52 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Kaslin

Too bad he didn’t stay in Honduras.


9 posted on 09/11/2016 6:24:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Very true.


10 posted on 09/11/2016 7:57:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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To: Rome2000
He’s a degenerate commie scumbag.

And that's why Hillary Rotten Criminal picked him.

11 posted on 09/11/2016 8:04:00 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Kaslin
Tim Kaine's political formation wasn't pro-American or pro-Catholic, it was pro-Soviet.

Actually more 'communism'... but the effing press won't give a damn... the REAL backers of communism are protected by the press WHILE they squeal about Trump noticing Putin has the backing of his people AND loves his country. Trump was NEVER praising communism...

12 posted on 09/11/2016 8:04:38 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Alinsky Rule #12 “Proud to be in the Basket of Deplorables”" freeper TexasTransplant)
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To: Kaslin
Tim Kaine's political formation wasn't pro-American or pro-Catholic, it was pro-Soviet.

Actually more 'pro-communism'... but the effing press won't give a damn... the REAL backers of communism are protected by the press WHILE they squeal about Trump noticing Putin has the backing of his people AND loves his country. Trump was NEVER praising communism...

13 posted on 09/11/2016 8:05:12 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Alinsky Rule #12 “Proud to be in the Basket of Deplorables”" freeper TexasTransplant)
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To: BillyBoy

Kaine, liberation theology, not surprised to hear it.


14 posted on 09/11/2016 11:45:15 AM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery, Never Schumer, Never Pelosi)
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To: Kaslin

He’ll fit right in with the new “modern” Democratic National Party


15 posted on 09/11/2016 12:21:20 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Something bad is coming this way....)
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To: Ann Archy

I have no “gaydar”, but Kaine creeps me out anyway!!!!

Hillary picked him because he was an old clinton operative like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!. And I can’t stand “liberation theology” for obvious reasons!!!!

And Kaine always makes offensive BS statements against Trump and us Trump supporters!! PHOOEY!!!!


16 posted on 09/11/2016 4:05:52 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Rome2000

Other than Kaine’s rabid support for abortion, how does he differ from Pope Frank?


17 posted on 09/12/2016 11:53:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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