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This pertains to England's socialized National Health Service conducting a first time study that found up to 50 percent of cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy died within 30 days in some hospitals, implying treatment caused mortality.

The takeaway is obvious - seek the best medical cancer treatment you can afford where they have outstanding success for patient cancer survival rates. Avoid mediocre care at all costs with treatment that may be imminently more deadly than the disease. Your life may depend on it.

1 posted on 09/07/2016 3:33:50 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
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My mother had chemo for her pancreatic cancer. The chemo she was taking had a complete drug facts insert. Part of the information was a chart detailing the mortality rate of users.

By 14 months the mortality rate was 100%

Cancer sucks. Chemo prolongs the suck.


44 posted on 09/07/2016 4:16:59 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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When I was diagnosed with lung cancer, I went through a period of obsessing over “how long do I have?” I scoured the Internet for information about prognosis. Over and over, I turned up stories about people dying from their first dose of chemo. And every time I was able to discover where this happened, it was in the UK. I don’t think they know how to properly administer the drugs. They seem to still be in the trial and error phase.

Cancer treatment is very complicated. If you’re diagnosed, do your homework and find professionals who know what they’re doing.


45 posted on 09/07/2016 4:20:30 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. PTL ~ Þ)
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Aren’t these cancer patients in the UK system put on hold for months if not years before treatment is even approved and can be started?


51 posted on 09/07/2016 4:30:11 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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I wonder if they factor in the time from diagnosis to initial treatment in that study ... methinks not, since it would make the pinko-commie-lib™ NHS look even worse ...
56 posted on 09/07/2016 4:40:18 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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of course waiting till the patient is 99% dead before they get their treatments prolly has nothing to do with it...
62 posted on 09/07/2016 5:03:02 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING!)
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My wife’s good friend was having back pain, she was “diagnosed” with cancer of the spine. She was put on chemo and died two weeks later. An autopsy was performed and it was found that she didn’t have cancer at all. Some silicone had leaked from her breast implants and settled near her spine. It most likely had nothing to do with her back pain, but caused her x-rays to look like cancer had metastasized to her spine. Apparently some of her blood work came back with unusual results as well, but there was no cancer found in her body. The chemo was determined to have killed her.


67 posted on 09/07/2016 5:16:07 PM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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ultimately you have the decision to either take no treatment, and probably die a painful miserable death OR try a treatment, which may still give you a painful miserable death but also the chance to actually LIVE....


68 posted on 09/07/2016 5:16:26 PM PDT by cherry
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It may pertain to me if I could afford treatment.
If or when I have a diagnosed cancer... I don’t care.
They can TAKE EVERYTHING that the EX left me with and it might cover the initial treatment but I would have no place to live, nothing to eat ... what is the point/reason.
We all are gonna go, some can afford to extend their stay others embrace the journey.


87 posted on 09/07/2016 7:52:02 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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Because cancer cells are voracious little eaters they take the poison in faster and die sooner... Most chemotherapy is treatment by poison.
91 posted on 09/07/2016 8:17:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hillary's defense - "I'm not a criminal, I'm just incompetent and slow witted" - freeper Iron Munro)
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I’m not surprised. My mom had lung cancer and she passed away last October, right after her last chemo treatment. She collapsed in the bathroom, and it turns out her heart just gave out. Miss her everyday, but if it wasn’t the chemo it was going to be the cancer.. can’t dwell on that anymore.


92 posted on 09/07/2016 8:26:13 PM PDT by same old song
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Maybe they died because they had terminal cancer and 30 days was not long enough for the chemo to work.

and no, I am not fond of chemo.


94 posted on 09/08/2016 4:45:09 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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That doesn't always work either. Don't know if you followed the story of C & W singer Joey (Martin) Feek. She and her husband Rory Feek took a year off just before their first baby was due, Indiana Boone is a mild Down's 2 year old now. Joey developed Cervical Cancer shortly after Indy's birth. They chose Cancer Center of America for her care, best that money can buy. Surgery, treatment, supposedly cured. A short time later SAME Strain of cancer comes back as a 9 mm Sigmoid Colon tumor, surgery, more treatment, you are cured. NOT so fast, next CT showed more quarter size tumors and smaller ones again SAME STRAIN. There is no more we can do for you but Hospice it's in God's hands now. Joey lived to see Indy turn 2 and the release of their gospel album in Feb of 2016. She was a devout Christian woman, and said she won either way. She died March 4, 2016, Alexandria, IN


96 posted on 09/08/2016 6:55:42 AM PDT by GailA (If politicians won't keep their promises to the Military, they won't keep them to you!)
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I just passed 17 years cancer free, but I was one of the lucky ones. I was diagnosed with Transitional Cell Carcinoma of the right Kidney in 1999, and had the Kidney and part of my bladder removed a month after diagnosis. Doc also removed lymph nodes from that side just to be cautious.

Said that type of cancer did not respond to Chemo or Radiation, so only solution was remove and move forward. Was back on my feet and at work in less than a month with no ill effects.

I thank God every day for early detection and the miracle of life.

99 posted on 09/08/2016 11:58:29 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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BFL.

I have lots to say about this.


107 posted on 09/08/2016 6:27:13 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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My best friend with 3 months to live was talked into a pointless “clinical trial” and had his last conscious moment the day after to the chagrin of his wife and teenage children. Instead of putting his affairs in order and making peace with his family, he was gone before anyone could even say goodbye. Thanks NHS.


108 posted on 09/08/2016 6:32:40 PM PDT by anton
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My husband had lung cancer and we were told he had great chance to be cured or at least have 5 to 10 years more. We chose chemotherapy because we didn’t know what else to do. He had chemo nine times and it destroyed his breathing capacity....the cancer never changed. It was 4 tiny dots on the screen, before and after the chemo. He died from a heart attack, caused by the lack of oxygen. How I wish we had never done the chemo!

Be aware, my friends. Seek other options, if you can.


116 posted on 09/09/2016 7:39:38 AM PDT by jch10 (Stand strong! we have a country to save!)
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Yeah we kind of already knew that. Chemo is a last ditch treatment, it is really just trying to kill the “bad” part of you (cancer) before it manages to kill all of you. Trying to fix it when part of your body has turned against you is tough.


120 posted on 09/09/2016 8:20:21 AM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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All this tells me is the next time I need Chemotherapy, it isn’t happening in Great Britain.

I’ve gone through Chemotherapy four times over the last ten years. I’m still here. If I hadn’t done what I did, I wouldn’t be here typing this.


129 posted on 09/09/2016 9:27:33 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary Clinton has killed FIVE* more People than Three Mile Island. *revised...)
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Another factor may be the waiting time to get treatments. Or even worse finding out when it is too late and chemo is the last option available.


135 posted on 09/09/2016 10:22:09 AM PDT by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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My stage 3 lemon-sized adenocarcinoma tumor had 7 lymph nodes wrapped up in it. The surgery and 6 months of chemo was really rough. We knew that the avastin was damaging my liver, and we kept dosing it. 6 weeks after finishing chemo, I had an esophageal bleed, survived that after ICU and surgery and 6 units of blood, slowly regained health, over time, recovered fully, cancer free, and went to the gym today for my usual workout 9+ years later, no recurrence. Yes Chemo is dangerous. Yes it can kill you and nearly killed me. Yes, you can experience complete recovery. Watch for the miracles. I love my life.


149 posted on 09/09/2016 6:40:36 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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