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This pertains to England's socialized National Health Service conducting a first time study that found up to 50 percent of cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy died within 30 days in some hospitals, implying treatment caused mortality.

The takeaway is obvious - seek the best medical cancer treatment you can afford where they have outstanding success for patient cancer survival rates. Avoid mediocre care at all costs with treatment that may be imminently more deadly than the disease. Your life may depend on it.

1 posted on 09/07/2016 3:33:50 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
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I read these results as the NHS trying to gin up evidence so as to justify cutting its budget.


2 posted on 09/07/2016 3:35:24 PM PDT by bkopto
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So chemotherapy kills 50% of patients.

Cancer kills about 100% of them.

This said from a guy whose wife went through a stem cell transplant for advancde breast cancer 20 years ago. Was it hell? You bet. But she saw her boys graduate college, one get married, and is still my beautiful bride today.


3 posted on 09/07/2016 3:37:55 PM PDT by henkster
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well..... many chemotherapy drugs are really “poisons” (starting with mustard gas derivatives in WW2) ...designed to attack dividing cells...
but they are still poisons ... the trick is that they attack the rapidly-dividing cancer cells more than regularly-dividing healthy cells.... its a careful game....
sometimes.. SUCCESS!!! happy patient, living patient. sometimes, though...... well, see the article...


5 posted on 09/07/2016 3:40:19 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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A man I know died last week, two days after his first chemo treatment. Yes, he had cancer, but was still very active. He had planned to spend the weekend fishing at the river. His doctors were saying there was every reason to expect a full recovery. He was 46.


6 posted on 09/07/2016 3:41:25 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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Since this is NHS, I wonder what impact the delay in beginning treatment has on this study?


7 posted on 09/07/2016 3:42:19 PM PDT by IamConservative (Hillary walks while 100's of teens get prosecuted for mishandling Miley Cyrus MP3's..)
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Good post!

The chemo/radiation route is (or can be) very deadly. I know many who said to me on their death-beds, “Die like a man, and trust in God, not in oncologists.”

May God Bless their Eternal Souls...


8 posted on 09/07/2016 3:42:36 PM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." (Thomas Jefferson))
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But don’t try alternative medicine - that could be dangerous.


9 posted on 09/07/2016 3:43:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Doesn’t everyone already know this? Chemothereapy involves infusing poison heavy metals into the patient’s blood. Repeatedly, and on a schedule.

It made me sicker than I have ever been in my life and it very near killed me, but then it saved my life. And here I am.

p.s. The radiation is no party either.


11 posted on 09/07/2016 3:44:17 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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Interesting... I have been around for a few years and have watched battle with Cancer and the search for a cure. Billions, trillions? have been spent on research and yet treatment hasn’t changed much in 20/30 years — the two options: chemo and radiation.

Early detection seems to be what has improved longevity but some even now argue that, for example, mammograms are not beneficial.

Where has all of the money gone!


13 posted on 09/07/2016 3:46:26 PM PDT by dhs12345
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Cancer treatments often involve medications and radiation that is highly toxic to normal cells.The treatments are a balancing act...that balancing being on a knife’s edge.If a particular hospital or health system has a particularly bad record treating cancer then serious self examination is in order.


14 posted on 09/07/2016 3:47:08 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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I had chemotherapy for Hodgkins about 30 years ago. It was extremely unpleasant and painful, but it worked.

It might have killed me, but if I hadn’t had it, I certainly would have died within a year or two from the cancer.


23 posted on 09/07/2016 3:50:55 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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“This pertains to England’s socialized National Health Service conducting a first time study that found up to 50 percent of cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy died within 30 days in some hospitals, implying treatment caused mortality. “

IIRC, cancer survival rates in the UK/NHS have always been poor. This may reflect more upon the care than the method of treatment. What are the comparable figures for US ?


27 posted on 09/07/2016 3:54:43 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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Why do they nail down the coffin lid at funerals?

To keep the oncologist from giving one more round of chemo.


31 posted on 09/07/2016 3:58:55 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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Don’t do chemo!

I can testify to that with the affects it had on my husband.


33 posted on 09/07/2016 3:59:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Similarly, around one in five people who underwent palliative care for breast cancer at Cambridge University Hospitals died from their treatment.

A reporter too stupid to know what palliative care is, or was her source the idiot?

34 posted on 09/07/2016 4:05:03 PM PDT by PAR35
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Whole purpose of chemotherapy based on my wife’s oncologist is to kill cell growth as the cancer cells grow and die faster than normal cells - by killing the cell growth the cancer cells die off faster than the good cells which after the treatment can recover.

Radiation basically does the same thing, but more localized. Hormone therapy prevents some, not all, cancer cell types from reproducing but this is dependent upon the hormones present in the body (pre-post menopause for example) and the persons genetic makeup can also have an impact.

THAT being said - every cancer type and every chemotherapy assigned to the type s different and each type (breast, liver, lung, etc) has different meds and doses depending upon current state in the body (tumor size, in the nodes, in other organs) and the specific metabolic rate of the cancer in question. Type, Stage and rate drive the selection of the therapy to be used.

My wife did surgery, chemo, radiation all in 5 months and then hormones for 5 years. Thank the good Lord and her docs she’s still here to harass me every day.


35 posted on 09/07/2016 4:05:19 PM PDT by reed13k
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It saved me from stage b3- I remain a big fan!


37 posted on 09/07/2016 4:06:39 PM PDT by major-pelham
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My chiropractor told me this last year.

What an atrocity.

And all for the big bucks for the pharm industry.


38 posted on 09/07/2016 4:07:40 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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The timing is incredible. NHS was in the news just a few days ago for announcing that “routine” surgeries will now be denied anyone who is deemed to be overweight or a smoker. Now, after decades of providing Chemo, suddenly they are “concerned” about the outcomes.

I hate Chemo as much as the next guy, and pray for the day a more civilized treatment regimen is available. But the timing? The overseers are ready to begin their planned Euthanasia.


40 posted on 09/07/2016 4:10:20 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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The timing is incredible. NHS was in the news just a few days ago for announcing that “routine” surgeries will now be denied anyone who is deemed to be overweight or a smoker. Now, after decades of providing Chemo, suddenly they are “concerned” about the outcomes.

I hate Chemo as much as the next guy, and pray for the day a more civilized treatment regimen is available. But the timing? The overseers are ready to begin their planned Euthanasia.


41 posted on 09/07/2016 4:10:20 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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