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Mandatory music classes hit a bad note with some Muslim parents
Globe and Mail ^ | September 6, 2016 | Colin Freeze and Mahnoor Yawar

Posted on 09/06/2016 5:50:10 PM PDT by Loyalist

When music class begins this week at Toronto’s Donwood Park elementary school, Mohammad Nouman Dasu will send a family member to collect his three young children. They will go home for an hour rather than sing and play instruments – a mandatory part of the Ontario curriculum he believes violates his Muslim faith.

The Scarborough school and the Toronto District School Board originally had offered an accommodation – suggesting students could just clap their hands in place of playing instruments or listen to acapella versions of O Canada – but not a full exemption from the class.

After a bitter three-year fight, however, Mr. Dasu felt he had no other opton but to bring his kids home.

According to documents ob-tained by The Globe and Mail, some parents insist they cannot allow their children to be in the same room where musical instruments are being played. Mr. Dasu, a Koran teacher who sometimes leads prayers at Scarborough’s Jame Abu Bakr Siddique mosque, says he has led the fight on behalf of parents. He has consulted with national Islamic bodies, and requested a letter from the leader of his mosque.

“We here believe that music is haram [forbidden]. We can neither listen to it, nor can we play a role in it,” said the mosque’s imam, Kasim Ingar.

Conceding that Muslims have to adjust when they send their kids to public school, he suggested that some matters, such as teaching music, are beyond debate.

“We do not compromise with anyone on the clear-cut orders and principles conveyed by the Prophet,” said Mr. Ingar, who also leads the Scarborough Muslim Association.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; education; islam; music; publicschools; toronto
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To: Loyalist

If you can’t assimilate, leave and go to a Muslim country where you can live “music free”.


41 posted on 09/06/2016 6:24:33 PM PDT by marygam (can we get to the election already?)
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To: Old Grumpy

Kind of like that scene near the end of “Mars Attacks” with playing Slim Whitman makes the Martians’ heads explode, lol.


42 posted on 09/06/2016 6:28:23 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Loyalist

But, but our Boy King told us a little under a year ago that “A Canadian is a Canadian” and his drive by friends also said that “old stock and new stock Canadians” was racist because of the way Harper said it.


43 posted on 09/06/2016 6:31:54 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Old Grumpy

“Let’s play music everywhere !”

Mosque moving into your neighborhood? “Moderate” muslim family moving in next door?
Time to crank up Insane Clown Posse. Seriously.
No melodic, soothing music. Over time, they’ll start to like it.
Crank up the most obnoxious, vile, vulgar American noise imaginable.

Of course, if you’re plagued with dindus blasting **their** boomboxes, the best response is Beethoven’s Ninth, or the Foggy Mountain Breakdown at 90 decibels blasted right back over their rap music-—at the same time theirs is blasting.
Yep. It’s war. Act surprised and hurt —and clueless— if they call the cops.. Don’t forget to smile. Repeat as often as necessary until effective—which won’t be long.

I’ve done this. It works.
Thugs have packed up and left the neighborhood to get away from me.


44 posted on 09/06/2016 6:37:59 PM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again.)
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To: Loyalist
but try and take yer kid out of class when they promote homosexuality is normal...
45 posted on 09/06/2016 6:40:50 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING!)
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To: beethovenfan

Apparently not much room for beauty, is there? No music, no visual arts, the women are covered.


46 posted on 09/06/2016 6:41:28 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Loyalist
The Muslims are like the Blue Meanies in Yellow Submarine -- only without the charm.

The Blue Meanies "hate everything that maketh music." And it was music that finally defeated them.

Funny if it works the same on Islam. I doubt it though.


47 posted on 09/06/2016 6:41:47 PM PDT by Maceman (Screw the Party. Save the Country.)
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To: Loyalist

WTF is allowed besides suicide belts and stoning? Learn something new about islam each and every day, and none of it is good.


48 posted on 09/06/2016 6:42:04 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Loyalist

muzz slimes hate music because they have no souls.


49 posted on 09/06/2016 6:55:59 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (If Trump loses, America dies)
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To: PGR88

Well said. I keep forgetting the Wahabists in the middle of all the ISIS and Hizbollah and the rest.


50 posted on 09/06/2016 6:56:49 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Loyalist

“some parents insist they cannot allow their children to be in the same room where musical instruments are being played”

I don’t think they are going far enough. They had better leave any country where instruments are being played, just to be safe.


51 posted on 09/06/2016 6:56:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Loyalist

I love it when liberal loves once again clash.

Libs just have to have music as part of curricula, and they have to accomodate Moslems. Uh oh.


52 posted on 09/06/2016 7:10:00 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Loyalist

There is no joy in Islam!

Genuine Christians break forth in song (or in my case, make a joyful noise) because the love of God fills us with joy.

“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:

“Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
Dress for actiona like a man;
I will question you, and you make it known to me.

“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding...

when the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”


53 posted on 09/06/2016 7:14:46 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Loyalist

he believes violates his Muslim faith.

The very Instant they ADMITTED THIS, they should have been DEPORTED!!


54 posted on 09/06/2016 7:15:08 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: Loyalist

PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A HELL HOLE OF A COUNTRY , move to the United States, and try o turn it into the hell hole that you just left!!!....If you don’t like our rules, go home.....this is the way we do it here.....if you don’t like it, BYE-BYE.


55 posted on 09/06/2016 7:50:26 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: Loyalist

By order of the prophet
We ban that boogie sound
Degenerate the faithful
With that craazy Casbah sound


56 posted on 09/06/2016 7:53:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Loyalist
Islamic Music (Wikipedia)

This is bull shiite. Music is not used in Islamic worship (other than their weird wailing). It is used ALL THE TIME in secular activities in Islamic society.

57 posted on 09/06/2016 7:55:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Loyalist

I don’t believe people should be forced to sing and play music. Although I appreciate certain instrumentals (Johann Sebastian Bach, please), I generally do not like singing. There are some exceptions, but it’s all about the style.

Reminds me of being forced to eat Jello at lunch in school when I was a little kid. I hate the stuff, and have a lifelong aversion to it. Had to dig in my heels and get my Mom in there to run interference. Never puked any up, but had gagging episodes. To a little kid, that was like waterboarding.

Music can be a joy and should be a choice. I’d let these folks take the music course for the deaf people. They certainly have that course option, don’t they?


58 posted on 09/06/2016 7:56:16 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Boogieman

Not a bad suggestion.


59 posted on 09/06/2016 7:56:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mumblypeg

I say we hold Yoko Ono in reserve for the most serious times


60 posted on 09/06/2016 8:04:32 PM PDT by xp38
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