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Op-Ed Globalization isn't killing factory jobs. Trade is actually why manufacturing is up 40%.
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 1, 2016 | Daniel Griswold

Posted on 08/02/2016 5:46:48 AM PDT by expat_panama

Foreign trade took a beating at both major party conventions, with speakers blaming free-trade agreements for all but wiping out U.S. manufacturing and eliminating millions of middle-class jobs. Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have promised to renegotiate or abandon trade agreements with key U.S. trading partners such as Mexico and Canada. That would be a colossal mistake.

The number of manufacturing jobs in the United States has indeed been in a long decline since the late 1970s...

American factories and American workers are making a greater volume of stuff than eve...

...America’s 21st century manufacturing sector is dominated by petroleum refining, pharmaceuticals, plastics, fabricated metals, machinery, computers and other electronics, motor vehicles and other transportation equipment, and aircraft and aerospace equipment.

We produce more manufacturing value with fewer employees...

The political anger about lost manufacturing jobs should be aimed at technology, not trade.

The political anger about lost manufacturing jobs should be aimed at technology...

...globalization and trade agreements have made a huge contribution to the ongoing success of American manufacturing...

...more than half of what Americans import each year is not for consumption but for production...

Like technology, globalization has allowed American manufacturing workers to “trade up” to more challenging and better-paying work...

...millions of U.S. jobs are eliminated each year by technology and changing consumer tastes, only to be replaced by new jobs that are being created by the same dynamic forces.

The right response to anxieties about trade is to invest more in education, retraining and enhanced labor mobility, not to pick trade fights with other nations that would put in jeopardy the success of America’s modern, competitive manufacturing sector.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; globalism; globalists; investing; manufacturing; trade
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To: Mase
Big governance. It is the Income tax loving Free Trader that is for big government.

More tariffs, less income taxes.

81 posted on 08/02/2016 8:26:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Pelham

Canned beef from Brazil, vegetables from south America, lettuce and tomatoes and what not from who knows where....

If you see something at WalMart that says 100% USA, it will cost more.


82 posted on 08/02/2016 8:26:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Meet the New Boss

“What we are seeing with China and Mexico is not natural comparative advantage. It is purely labor and regulatory arbitrage under global trade agreements and the reason is it happening is because the US government has become the agent of the global-redistribution Left and of transnational businesses, and is no longer the agent of the American people.”

That agrees with what economist Paul Craig Roberts has been saying for some time.


83 posted on 08/02/2016 8:30:03 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: central_va

Tariffs are taxes. And you want more of them. As I’ve tried to educate you many times in the past, the federal income tax resulted from big government types just like you wheeling and dealing to establish and increase their beloved tariffs. You can thank your fellow travelers for the 16th Amendment. Ain’t big government wonderful!


84 posted on 08/02/2016 8:32:10 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Tariffs are not mandatory. Don’t buy don’t pay. I am for consumption based taxes. At least with tariffs I don’t have to explain every dependent and every bit of income to the Feds.


85 posted on 08/02/2016 8:36:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: expat_panama

I want to produce a 3D printer that can do plastic and metal parts. Then combine it with a robot arm.

Just download the design plans/programs for whatever you want to make from the internet and set your little makerbot to work.

It’ll mess up manufacturing all over the world but we’ll all be richer for it.


86 posted on 08/02/2016 8:43:28 AM PDT by toast
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To: Will88
None of this BS changes the fact that thousands of factories and millions of US manufacturing jobs have been moved to cheap labor nations...

Americans have two different ways of working w/ U.S. manufacturing.   Almost half starts with this kind of info--

--so they can pay taxes to protect the rest that see it like this:

My concern is that this will not end well....

87 posted on 08/02/2016 8:44:15 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: central_va
"Do you consider yourself a patriot? Because I don’t."

You know, I didn't plan to respond to the multitude of stupid and asinine comments directed against me because the Trump train has driven people crazy IMO. However, this comment I take exception to. I served 22 years in the United States Marine Corps. I was in combat three times and was involved in one Humanitarian event. I put my right hand up a lot of times and swore an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Yeah, I do consider myself a patriot. What's your definition?
88 posted on 08/02/2016 8:47:00 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Gaffer

If memory serves when Sam Walton was alive and running the company he made a point of selling American made products. By comparison today Walmart is huge part of the Chinese economy.

America in the 1950s and 1960s essentially produced everything that we bought, and it was the time when the middle class was at its broadest. The two go hand in hand. Today our political and business elites have done an excellent job at creating a middle class in China and Mexico.


89 posted on 08/02/2016 8:51:55 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: Red Badger

Don’t forget tattoos.


90 posted on 08/02/2016 8:54:49 AM PDT by punchamullah
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
You cannot be a patriot and a globalist at the same time. You cannot be a globalist and a nationalist at the same time. I find it odd that you should take umbrage of my opinion of someone because you think everything I say is wrong headed. So what's the problem? Maybe I hit a nerve.

I was in the Navy, so what? Being ex military doesn't buy you patriotism. A patriot is as a patriot does.

I really don't have a problem with the globalist. It is the hypocrisy that I can't stand. They think themselves patriots which is laughable. Don't jump on a black horse and tell me it's white. Globalists just quit lying to me, quit lying to yourself. Own your globalism and anti nationalism and anti free republic position. Just put down the Americana flag as globalist should never get near one. To much hypocrisy there. Globalist have a right to be a globalist but look foolish calling themselves patriots. The emperor has no clothes.

91 posted on 08/02/2016 9:06:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: punchamullah

Yep! We have tattoo parlors all over the place!........ Some do all three!...................


92 posted on 08/02/2016 9:08:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: central_va
Tariffs are not mandatory. Don’t buy don’t pay.

DERP!

93 posted on 08/02/2016 9:29:36 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: central_va
"You cannot be a patriot and a globalist at the same time."

Is that in your book somewhere? Do you have a reference? Just because you believe in free trade doesn't mean you hate your country. I love my country and I believe in the nation state system that has been in place for the last 600 years. I also believe that countries that are trading partners are more likely to find peaceful solutions to problems that may arise and I believe that the American worker can and will succeed in the global competitive marketplace. I agree with Trump that if there are unfair practices happening between trading partners, we need to fix them. But scrapping trade with our partners is a stupid idea.

We have always been a maritime nation of trade. From the Quasi war with France to the Barbary Pirate conflicts to the War of 1812. They all had to do one way or another with trade. If we don't continue to secure free trade deals and open up marketplaces, other countries will pass us by.
94 posted on 08/02/2016 9:40:46 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Mase
Those farms are producing a lot more food with a fraction of the employees they used to have. Same with manufacturing

Right.

The issue is, do you consider that a good thing or a bad thing?

95 posted on 08/02/2016 10:11:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The polls can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)
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To: Jim Noble

How can producing more food at a lower cost be bad? Every American needs to eat food, and now they are able to buy and eat more of it, in variety never seen in history, for less money. Socialists prefer waiting in lines to buy whatever happens to be available. They also have lots more people working on farms.


96 posted on 08/02/2016 10:28:11 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

We were always a nation of tariffs unto the unpatriotic globalist took over both parties.


97 posted on 08/02/2016 10:39:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I love my country

Hmm, really? In my opinion you have skewed and conditional love. A patriot wouldn't pit American against third world peasants for survival for any reason economic or otherwise. A Patriot can see that the slight decrease(or no mostly no decrease) in the cost of a manufactured good is irrelevant to keeping all Americans working and productive. A Patriot can see after 30 year of free trade the country is on the precipice of full blown socialism due to the downward pressure caused by free trade. Paying Americans to make your goods is a small price to pay. But your mileage may vary.

You love making money which in of itself is not a bad thing at all. I like it too. I will not make money on the backs of unemployed Americans even if a few of them were once in union or, God forbid, a Democrat at some point. I don't care they are still Americans to me.

98 posted on 08/02/2016 10:52:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
"We were always a nation of tariffs unto the unpatriotic globalist took over both parties."

In 1789 we started out as a nation with no Navy or Marine Corps and a couple dozen standing Army personnel. Should we go back to that also? We lived in a different world back then as tariffs was the main source of governmental income as there were no corporate or personal taxes.
99 posted on 08/02/2016 10:54:29 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: central_va

You love to throw out your definition of Patriot and then measure everyone else to that standard. Fortunately the rest of America does not operate by that standard. America is lurching towards socialism to be sure, but it has nothing to do with NAFTA. It has to do with a bunch of spoiled brats and jacka$$e$ that want free everything. I guess if I’m not a patriot, neither is Mark Levin as he would be right next to me talking about free trade. So would Rush Limbaugh. I’d rather stand with these two giants than you. Read Levin’s Liberty and Tyranny or Ameritopia if you want to find out about our lurch towards socialism. I’ll refrain from calling you a big dummy like Levin might.


100 posted on 08/02/2016 10:59:13 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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