Posted on 08/01/2016 6:13:44 AM PDT by Biggirl
In a press conference Sunday, Pope Francis appeared to suggest that all religions are equally prone to violence and that Islam and Christianity are the same in this regard. When asked by a journalist about the “barbarous assassination of Fr. Jacques Hamel” in northern France who was clearly “killed in the name of Islam” last Tuesday, the Pope replied that he doesn’t like speaking about Islamic violence because there is plenty of Christian violence as well.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
They don’t. But the Pope seems to have no problems calling out violent Catholics. Why draw an arbitrary line?
Heaven forbid! (Note, I'm not just posting to you, but to "all" who may feel as you do. I was going to post what I write below regardless because I know Pope Francis has been a disappointment to many Catholics, who now feel as you)
Reading the entire report at Brietbart I am left desiring more context, however I fear no amount of context would or could rescue the Holy Father's comments here.
"In the brief press conference aboard the papal plane returning from Krakow, Poland, the Pope said that every day when he browses the newspapers, he sees violence in Italy perpetrated by Christians: 'this one who has murdered his girlfriend, another who has murdered the mother-in-law… and these are baptized Catholics! There are violent Catholics!'"
This represents a serious mistake in logic on the Holy Father's part, if indeed this is all he said on the issue. There is simply no way to defend this mistake. He clearly is equating mere violence committed for selfish reasons, sinful reasons, reasons not based in a religious worldview (warped or not), with the reasons ISIS members committ their violence. The equivocation is indefensible.
One is being violent as a selfish means to and end, another is being violent to advance a (arguably) twisted interpretation of a religion, thus the violence in the latter case is motivated by a (however twisted) religion. The former is not. They are simply not comparable. Certainly both are "violent" and thus equally evil, but the motivations are vastly different thus ultimately not comparable.
With all that said, I urge you and every other (understandably) discouraged Catholic to not let his holiness' inability to distinguish differences in violent motivations to separate you from the Church Christ founded. That is, to use a euphemism, throwing the baby out with the bath water. Consider the fact that there have been more than a few horrible popes throughout the 2,000 year history of His Church. Did His faithful leave simply because of the scandals then? If so there wouldn't be a Catholic Church today! The scandalized public, for the most part, stayed in the Body, because they understood the Church is not the Pope, the Pope isn't what makes the Church. The Holy Spirit does.
Don't leave the Holy Spirit brothers! I implore you, for your own sake, not because I am your Judge, but because as St. Peter said, "Lord, where else can I go?" There is no where else that He is fully present. You may experience a short lived emotional "satisfaction" going elsewhere but it won't and can't compare to the living water that the Church offers, which comes from Christ.
He never said our time here would be easy. Only that the "burden would be light". It will still be a burden though.
(To the usual anti-Catholics who have gleefully chimed in already, I'm not interested in another 10000 post round so don't waste your time "correcting" me by replying to this post. But if you do, be assured my silence will not be indicative of a lack of sufficient answer to your "objections" but rather disgust with your willful obstinacy which continues to poison the usual "Cath vs Prot" threads to this day).
Bend down and kiss the feet of Satan, Mr. “pope”.
You might want to check that history.
I am Christian and a Catholic and after seeing this article, Pope Francis has embaressed I.
On news that the question of “Is the pope catholic?” no longer has any meaning calls into question if bears really do poop in the woods.
Pope Loopy..
Follow "God's Bankers" money trail. Wait, never mind.
I concur. Throughout the centuries of the Church there have been bad popes. Christ remains eternal, holy & unchanged forever regardless who is pope. While this pope frustrates me, my loyalty is to Christ & His Catholic Church & am ever thankful to receive Him in the Holy Eucharist.
Vote Trump 2016
Sad truth of the matter is, the Left has managed to politicize our Church. Just as they’ve managed to politicize our schools, our government, and just about everything else.
bttt
Exactly. With the exception that it's not "if", but WHEN they, and Protestants too, did in the DISTANT past (and as brutally as Muslims ever did) it still was not justified by Jesus's teachings. Therefore, the power of Christ Himself did, and continued to, provide correction - a correction power Islam does not and will not ever have. The proof is that from out of those times, Christians created the Constitution and the 1st Amendment, while Islam is no different - if not worse, seeking to kill America BECAUSE OF it's protection of freedom.
It must be remembered that there is no love at the core of Islam. I don't think people realize how unconsciously dependent they are on that single concept - it's literally the root of what we conceive of as the core meaning of religion itself. It's why we feel safe having a non-specific 1st Amendment, that applies itself to no particular religion.
If the Founders made a mistake it was in not declaring Islam a non-religion for the meaning and purpose of the 1st Amendment. Islam is a terrorist political organization hiding behind religious freedom, and before the problem they represent is solved, the 1st Amendment definition of "religion" will be acknowledged as excluding them. This WILL happen, because its the truth and it MUST happen for America to survive this demonic enemy that fundamentally rejects EVERYTHING this country stands for.
I can always count on you for giving a deeper explanation why homosexuality and anti-Judeo -Christian thought and practices should be refused. Thank-you.
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When will they RETURN to the condemnation of using human beings in diabolical, evil, ways, like with polygamy in islam and sodomy is ok with the little children and animals, etc. in islam/koran—using human beings in vile, degrading evil ways is OK? As a Means to an End? LOL....what a “church” and anti-pope.
Can a Marxist homosexualist be a “Catholic”? Can a “homosexual” “Marriage” be a union? Can you have Pride in anal sex????? LOL. Can a Lie be Truth? What does the term “Catholic” mean anymore-———words-—twist, warp, destroy-—all to demoralize, subvert and collapse for the NWO (One Mind (control)) of all the little children........brainwashing into irrationality (utopia—ha ha).)
Wisdom (truth) creates people who have Free Will and Individuality (unique identity). Individualism is essential for wisdom (thinking outside the “box” collective/bee hive)-—and the ONLY way children are able to “think coherently (outside group-think) is to understand the Laws of Nature and nature’s God which is when they are raised INSIDE their NATURAL FAMILY with a mother and father and siblings and relatives to emotionally and biologically connect themselves to the past and future.
It is not in a feudal/serf system of “group think”-—but in a system of subsidiarity where children learn Self-Reliance and learn to LOVE both male and female (and embed in early childhood how to interact with BOTH—and what is male—what is female).
Trying to destroy roles and identity formulation in children through hyper-sexualization (Sex Ed) and destruction of Christianity (Natural Family) is crucial to get serf minds-—children incapable of understanding the Truth of Reality——so they “know” and accept sodomy as normal-—all for the NWO where there will be sex with children/babies again like in Ancient Babylonian (he-she-goat-god) religions——Radical Egalitarianism—Marxism-—true communism where there is no mother and father or biological connections.
This “Catholic” Church-—throwing OUT the Catholic Canon-—like America throwing out the Constitution——is a FRAUD.
Catholic “violence” (like the inquisitions, etc) was back in the old days. Islamic violence exists in the present. How about we talk about the present problems instead of dwelling on the ones in the past? We can’t fix the past, let’s address the present please.
No apologies necessary. My husband is a Boston raised cradle Catholic and I converted to marry him, Our pet name for the jerk is Pope Commie. He’s an idiot and a leftist plant — I tell people, “Look, he may be infallible in the ways of the church — but on politics and economics he’s a chimp.”
Let`s talk about Catholic violence..How many millions of innocent babies have liberal Catholics help slaughter? Now THAT IS CATHOLIC VIOLENCE. Interesting How the pope talks about abortion as if it`s an afterthought.
Next the Pope will proclaim that of course Jesus was not resurrected, that is not possible. Then that Mary was a promiscuous young maiden who tricked Joseph into marrying her to avoid being stoned to death...Just kidding, but if he did Catholics still wouldn’t throw Pope Frankie out on his lyin’ lips.
Please, tell us of comparable Catholic violence, padre.
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