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To: ground_fog; All
I’m no longer Catholic because of this guy..I’m done

Heaven forbid! (Note, I'm not just posting to you, but to "all" who may feel as you do. I was going to post what I write below regardless because I know Pope Francis has been a disappointment to many Catholics, who now feel as you)

Reading the entire report at Brietbart I am left desiring more context, however I fear no amount of context would or could rescue the Holy Father's comments here.

"In the brief press conference aboard the papal plane returning from Krakow, Poland, the Pope said that every day when he browses the newspapers, he sees violence in Italy perpetrated by Christians: 'this one who has murdered his girlfriend, another who has murdered the mother-in-law… and these are baptized Catholics! There are violent Catholics!'"

This represents a serious mistake in logic on the Holy Father's part, if indeed this is all he said on the issue. There is simply no way to defend this mistake. He clearly is equating mere violence committed for selfish reasons, sinful reasons, reasons not based in a religious worldview (warped or not), with the reasons ISIS members committ their violence. The equivocation is indefensible.

One is being violent as a selfish means to and end, another is being violent to advance a (arguably) twisted interpretation of a religion, thus the violence in the latter case is motivated by a (however twisted) religion. The former is not. They are simply not comparable. Certainly both are "violent" and thus equally evil, but the motivations are vastly different thus ultimately not comparable.

With all that said, I urge you and every other (understandably) discouraged Catholic to not let his holiness' inability to distinguish differences in violent motivations to separate you from the Church Christ founded. That is, to use a euphemism, throwing the baby out with the bath water. Consider the fact that there have been more than a few horrible popes throughout the 2,000 year history of His Church. Did His faithful leave simply because of the scandals then? If so there wouldn't be a Catholic Church today! The scandalized public, for the most part, stayed in the Body, because they understood the Church is not the Pope, the Pope isn't what makes the Church. The Holy Spirit does.

Don't leave the Holy Spirit brothers! I implore you, for your own sake, not because I am your Judge, but because as St. Peter said, "Lord, where else can I go?" There is no where else that He is fully present. You may experience a short lived emotional "satisfaction" going elsewhere but it won't and can't compare to the living water that the Church offers, which comes from Christ.

He never said our time here would be easy. Only that the "burden would be light". It will still be a burden though.

(To the usual anti-Catholics who have gleefully chimed in already, I'm not interested in another 10000 post round so don't waste your time "correcting" me by replying to this post. But if you do, be assured my silence will not be indicative of a lack of sufficient answer to your "objections" but rather disgust with your willful obstinacy which continues to poison the usual "Cath vs Prot" threads to this day).

163 posted on 08/01/2016 8:28:32 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

I concur. Throughout the centuries of the Church there have been bad popes. Christ remains eternal, holy & unchanged forever regardless who is pope. While this pope frustrates me, my loyalty is to Christ & His Catholic Church & am ever thankful to receive Him in the Holy Eucharist.

Vote Trump 2016


171 posted on 08/01/2016 9:13:23 AM PDT by TheStickman (Trump will be the 1st Pro America president since Reagan)
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