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So call Libertarian does not believe in the 1st Amendment.
1 posted on 07/29/2016 7:34:10 AM PDT by C19fan
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sounds ‘presidential’ to me

Let’s make sure we associate this moron with Bernie supporters so if ANYTHING he takes away from Clinton and not Trump

(the sort of anti-perot)


2 posted on 07/29/2016 7:36:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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Their idea of liberty is smoke dope, have sex with anyone, get abortion on demand, and not have to face any consequences of their actions, including any pesky guilt or scorn.


3 posted on 07/29/2016 7:38:01 AM PDT by Fido969 (Maybe I';ve been posting for the last 10 years, and rather than spew cr@p you could look up my posts)
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Why was Gary Johnson at the DNC?..........................


4 posted on 07/29/2016 7:39:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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This guy sounds your run of the mill, can be bought politician of the Uniparty.


5 posted on 07/29/2016 7:41:02 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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Religious freedom/Freedom of conscience is the cornerstone of liberty. Its strange that a libertarian would support using the heavy hand of government to abuse individuals who simply wish to not associate, endorse, or serve another.


6 posted on 07/29/2016 7:41:44 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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This crAzy dude seriously thinks it’s the job of the federal government to eliminate all discrimination AND he claims to be libertarian at the same time? Wow! Just wow!


8 posted on 07/29/2016 7:44:52 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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Libertarians are now and have always been morons.


10 posted on 07/29/2016 7:46:00 AM PDT by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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i consider myself Libertarian on many issues, but Johnson and America’s organized libertarian party are often just bizarre to me.

For example, their continued emphasis on drug and marijauna freedom - its just stupid. They only need to say “let the states decide.”

Also, their push for open borders and gay marriage - again, they are actually “activist” and not libertarian, in my view. TRUE libertarians would let society, states and communities decide - without top-down activism, promotion or government incentivizing.


12 posted on 07/29/2016 7:48:55 AM PDT by PGR88
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And Beck and Ericson are playing footsie with him (Weld is even worse)!


13 posted on 07/29/2016 7:50:02 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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Are LIBERTARIANS just DEMOCRAT-lite?


14 posted on 07/29/2016 7:51:06 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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So a Libertarian doesn’t recognize the right of people to refuse behaviors and attitudes they find offensive and immoral

Add one to the “Establishment” List


15 posted on 07/29/2016 7:51:35 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Wisconsin . . .get rid of Paul Ryno)
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What a hypocrite. He conflates discrimination with shooting people and uses that as his basis to use governmental force to make people violate their religious beliefs and consciences. That is about as anti-libertarian as you can get. He isn’t just anti first amendment, his position is against the fundamental principles of the party he is really running as.


16 posted on 07/29/2016 7:53:25 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God save us!)
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Gary Johnson also says that he would have NO restrictions on immigration.


17 posted on 07/29/2016 7:55:04 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Was he intoxicated during this interview, or does he always talk like this?


18 posted on 07/29/2016 7:56:31 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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In another interview Johnson stated he was for open borders, thought the court was right on gay marriage but said polygamy should be decided by the states. In a follow up he was unable to explain his reasoning.


20 posted on 07/29/2016 8:02:30 AM PDT by slumber1 (Islam delenda est)
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With all due respect to this prominent Libertarian, the present anti-liberty collectivist State started is the product of a redefinition of the social contract designed by the Founders and easily seen in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. That being a government of finite and limited enumerated powers, and the explicit statement that all other powers were reserved to the States and the People.

Recall that the Bill of Rights was only added after some Founders concluded that when a right was not explicitly listed that government might seize it under a newly-defined power. At first there was no Bill of Rights because it was thought to be redundant.

While the right to freely practice religion is an explicit right, one of those implied, unstated but still reserved rights is the right of freedom of association. Of the several options available to society to start to rectify the mistreatment of Blacks in the South in the 20th century, instead of using social pressure, government decided to usurp the right of freedom of association and private property rights.

This was done by defining business as some type of government franchise by which it fell under regulation of other franchises. Thus owners of business were stripped of their right to choose their customers and to fully control their business premises. This is yet one more example of how society makes choices that have the unintended consequences that are more damaging later on. It was far more easy for people to have faith in government to force owners of rest rooms and lunch counters in the south to treat Blacks decently, than it was for them to accept other more peaceful means.

Liberals never stop when government has addressed the Urgent Issue that excused government being given a new power. The new power must be used to gain yet more new powers. Once it was a matter of “civil rights” that a person could demand that a private business associate with them and sell them a good or service, the groundwork was laid so that government could expand the groups of people who enjoyed that “protection”. Recently that has included people who practice what many religions define as sexual immorality.

And here we are. It is a shame that a “libertarian” cannot see the horrible damage and destruction that will flow when one person is forbidden to politely decline to associate with someone else. Libertarians for generations have rightly decried government for the brutal and thuggish monster that it often can be. They have called for government to return to its role of just keeping society peaceful and the public infrastructure running smoothly.

When we allow government to force Christian bakers to bake cakes in support of activities they know to be a gross sin, we turn our backs upon the very principle upon which the federal government was given life by the Founders. We give government the power to enslave private citizens, in essence to draft them into its army of social engineers, in a cause that many Christians understand will in fact bring God’s judgment upon our nation.

We must not be surprised when God peacefully and politely declines to bless and protect this formerly great land.

#BakeTheCake #GodWins


21 posted on 07/29/2016 8:04:43 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Who is he?


23 posted on 07/29/2016 8:12:53 AM PDT by WENDLE (hillary in an unindicted criminal.)
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I’ve been saying this for some time that the libertarian party is no longer libertarian.

Read this guy he’s got the government enforcing all sorts of crap on you you no longer have freedom of association freedom of religion freedom of anything


24 posted on 07/29/2016 8:17:28 AM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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He's not a "so-called" libertarian. He's a libertarian. They're all nuts. So nuts in fact they have no platform for themselves. No credibility. That's why they infest and infect conservative forums like FR.

Open borders, abortion, vending machine narcotics. These people are as demented as demonRATs.

27 posted on 07/29/2016 8:25:12 AM PDT by LouAvul (Freedom without responsibility is anarchy.)
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Gary Johnson and William Weld are not Libertarian’s, they have pretty much destroyed that party.

Just read the writings of Dr. Murray Rothbard who helped found the Libertarian Party.

These guys are both moderate to liberals, especially Bill Weld who was Gov. of Mass. before Mitt Romney.


28 posted on 07/29/2016 8:28:06 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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