Posted on 07/26/2016 5:43:11 AM PDT by randita
PHILADELPHIA The 2016 Democratic National Convention is underway, and the factual inaccuracies on the first night focused on income, college tuition and something the Republican ticket had said or done. Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey said Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump would cut taxes for the richest Americans at the expense of the middle class. But all income levels would get some tax relief under Trumps plan.
Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy wrongly claimed that Mike Pence, the GOP vice presidential nominee, signed a law that would have forced women to hold funerals for fetuses. The law said aborted or miscarried fetuses must be cremated or interred by the hospital or abortion facility.
Sen. Bernie Sanders said Hillary Clinton will guarantee free tuition at public colleges or universities for families with annual incomes of $125,000 or less. But free tuition is not guaranteed. States must put up matching funds for the students to receive free tuition.
Sens. Casey and Kirsten Gillibrand both claimed that Trump had said that wages are too high. Trump was specifically talking about a $15 minimum wage when he made that comment, not wages overall.
Sanders said the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent, a statistic that has been questioned by economists at the Federal Reserve Board.
Sanders also said the top 1 percent in recent years has earned 85 percent of all new income, but economists whose work Sanders has cited put the figure at 52 percent for 1993 to 2015.
Rep. Joe Kennedy III said Americans wages have not budged in 40 years, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren said wages were flat. Wages plunged in the 1970s and 1980s, and more recently have showed strong growth.
This story was written with the help of the entire staff, including some of those based in Philadelphia who are at the convention site. As we did for the Republican National Convention, we intend to vet the major speeches at the Democratic National Convention for factual accuracy, applying the same standards to both.
Trumps Tax Plan
Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey said Donald Trump would cut taxes for the richest Americans at the expense of the middle class. The wealthiest Americans would receive the largest tax cuts under Trumps tax plan, but everyone would get some tax relief. Middle-income Americans would receive average tax cuts of about $2,700 in 2017 under Trumps plan, according to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center.
Trumps plan would, among other things, consolidate the current seven income tax brackets into four, with a top marginal rate of 25 percent (its currently 39.6 percent).
According to an analysis of the plan by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, Trumps proposal would reduce taxes throughout the income distribution. Nonetheless, the biggest cuts would come for the wealthiest Americans, in both raw dollars and as a percentage of income, the Tax Policy Center found. The top 1 percent, for example, would get an average tax cut of more than $275,000 (about 17.5 percent of after-tax income) in 2017.
But middle-income people would see a tax cut, too. Middle-income households would receive an average tax cut of about $2,700,or about 5 percent of after-tax income, the Tax Policy Center concluded.
An analysis by the Tax Foundation reached a similar conclusion the biggest gains in after-tax income would accrue to the wealthiest taxpayers under Trumps proposal. But the plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.
The Tax Foundation analyzed the plans impact with (dynamic) and without (static) taking into account the expected effect on the economy. On a static basis, middle-income taxpayers between the 30th to 80th percentiles would see an increase in their after-tax adjusted gross income of between 3 percent and 8.3 percent. Taking into account the positive effects on the economy that the tax cuts could be expected to stimulate, the Tax Foundation found middle-income taxpayers between the 30th to 70th percentiles would see a nearly 20 percent increase in after-tax adjusted gross income.
The Tax Foundation cautioned that the loss in revenue under Trumps plan even with expected benefits to the economy would increase the federal governments deficit by over $10 trillion over 10 years. One could argue that such large tax cuts might lead to spending cuts that disproportionately affect middle-income taxpayers. But Trump has not been specific about where he would begin making spending cuts.
Funerals for Miscarriages?
Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy claimed that GOP vice presidential nominee Mike Pence signed a law that would have forced women to hold funerals for fetuses, even in some cases, for a miscarriage. Thats not so.
The controversial anti-abortion bill Malloy referred to, which Indiana Gov. Pence signed into law March 24, contained a provision stating that an aborted or miscarried fetus must be cremated or interred, and that the hospital or abortion facility (not the mother, as Malloy suggested) is responsible for the disposition.
Some have characterized this as fetuses receiving what amounts to a funeral. But thats incorrect.
The word funeral refers to a ceremony, not to the burial or cremation that follows. For example, Dictionary.com defines funeral as the ceremonies for a dead person prior to burial or cremation. (Emphasis added is ours.)
And in fact, the Indiana law required no funeral ceremony. It even specified that the parents would not be required to provide a name for the fetus. A federal judge blocked the law from going into effect late last month. Clintons Tuition Plan
Sen. Bernie Sanders said Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will guarantee free tuition at in-state public colleges or universities for families with incomes of $125,000 a year or less. But free tuition would not be guaranteed. States must put up matching funds for free tuition. Also, the free-tuition plan would be phased in and not available to families earning as much as $125,000 until 2021.
Sanders mentioned the free-tuition plan in his speech as an example of how Clinton has adopted some of his ideas for the general election in a show of unity after the contentious primary.
Sanders: During the primary campaign, Secretary Clinton and I both focused on [college debt] but with different approaches. Recently, however, we have come together on a proposal that will revolutionize higher education in America. It will guarantee that the children of any family in this country with an annual income of $125,000 a year or less 83 percent of our population will be able to go to a public college or university tuition free.
Clinton announced her plan on July 6, but her plan calls for states to step up and invest in higher education. The New York Times wrote that the federal government would provide tuition grants to states that agree to put up some matching money.
The paper noted that some experts said details of the initiative including exactly how it would work and be paid for were sketchy, and raised concerns that some states would decline to contribute money.
More recently, Times columnist Kevin Carey wrote, States will be able to opt out of the Clinton plan, just as a significant number have chosen not to accept large federal subsidies to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.
Also, free tuition would be gradually phased in, beginning with families earning $85,000 or less. By 2021, families with income up to $125,000 will pay no tuition at in-state four-year public colleges and universities, Clintons plan says.
So Sanders overstates the impact of Clintons plan when he says it will guarantee free tuition for families with incomes of $125,000 a year or less. Actually, the plan could eventually provide free in-state tuition to eligible students, as the Times writes.
Trump on Wages
Two speakers claimed that Trump had said that wages are too high in the United States. Not exactly. Trump said that in response to a question about raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour.
Sen. Casey said that Trump said, Wages in America, quote, are too high, and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York repeated the talking point, saying, Donald Trump actually stood on a debate stage and said that wages are too high.
At a Nov. 10, 2015, debate hosted by Fox Business Network, Trump was asked if he was sympathetic to those who were calling for a $15 minimum wage. He responded that he cant be because the country is being beaten on every front economically. He went on to say, taxes too high, wages too high, were not going to be able to compete against the world. I hate to say it, but we have to leave it the way it is. The it was the federal minimum wage.
Heres the question and Trumps full answer:
Fox News Neil Cavuto, Nov. 10, 2015: Mr. Trump, as the leading presidential candidate on this stage and one whose tax plan exempts couples making up to $50,000 a year from paying any federal income taxes at all, are you sympathetic to the protesters cause since a $15 wage works out to about $31,000 a year?
Trump: I cant be Neil. And the and the reason I cant be is that we are a country that is being beaten on every front economically, militarily. There is nothing that we do now to win. We dont win anymore. Our taxes are too high. Ive come up with a tax plan that many, many people like very much. Its going to be a tremendous plan. I think itll make our country and our economy very dynamic.
But, taxes too high, wages too high, were not going to be able to compete against the world. I hate to say it, but we have to leave it the way it is. People have to go out, they have to work really hard and have to get into that upper stratum. But we can not do this if we are going to compete with the rest of the world. We just cant do it.
Cavuto: So do not raise the minimum wage?
Trump: I would not do it.
Trump was criticized for the comment and was asked about it two days later on Fox News. Trump said, And they said should we increase the minimum wage? And Im saying that if were going to compete with other countries, we cant do that because the wages would be too high. The question was about the minimum wage. Im not talking about wages being too high, Im talking about minimum wage.
Trumps original statement may not have been clearly worded, but the context, and his explanation two days later, show he was talking about a $15 minimum wage being too high, not all wages in the U.S. in general. Sanders Wealth and Income Talking Point
Sanders continued to strain the facts about inequality of income and wealth, as he had done throughout his campaign.
Wealth: Sanders said the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent.
Thats a hotly debated claim. Sanders referred to a study by economists Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley, and Gabriel Zucman of the London School of Economics and Political Science, first published in October 2014. Their study indeed concluded that as of 2012, the top 0.1 percent of American households held 22 percent of the nations personal wealth, while the bottom 90 percent held 23 percent.
However, as we reported last year, Saez and Zucmans work has been criticized by economists at the Federal Reserve Board, which has conducted its own studies of the wealth held by U.S. households since the 1960s. The Feds survey data put the share of wealth held by the top 0.1 percent at 14 percent, not 22 percent, and the Fed said that groups share had grown at only half the rate that the Saez-Zucman study stated.
Furthermore, in a paper published in 2015, four Fed economists argue that the Saez-Zucman methodology has an upward bias. It is based on inferring wealth from the income reported on federal tax returns, but the Fed economists argue that this fails to capture untaxed cash benefits to middle-income families, such as employer-paid health insurance and employer contributions to Social Security and Medicare.
Income: Sanders also said the top 1 percent in recent years has earned 85 percent of all new income. But thats no longer so, even according to Saez and Zucman.
A June 2016 update by Saez now puts the percentage of income growth captured by the top 1 percent from 1993 to 2015 at 52 percent. Thats barely half far below the 85 percent figure Sanders gave.
That same study also found robust income growth for all groups between 2013 and 2015, and said that for the bottom 99 percent, incomes grew by 3.9% from 2014 to 2015, the best annual growth rate since 1999.
So there is indeed evidence of large inequalities in the distribution of wealth and the growth of incomes. But Sanders exaggerates by using outdated or questionable data.
Roller-Coaster Wages
Rep. Joe Kennedy III said Americans wages have not budged in 40 years, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, his former law professor, said wages were flat. In fact, wages have had a roller-coaster ride during that time, and have been rising for years.
Kennedy: [Elizabeth Warren] taught us that [the laws] impact lay not in classrooms or textbooks, but in a society where wages have not budged in 40 years.
Wages have more than budged, plunging in the 1970s and 1980s, and more recently showing strong growth.
Its true that real (inflation-adjusted) average weekly wages for rank-and-file, nonsupervisory workers were still 3.2 percent lower in June 2016 than they were 40 years earlier, in June 1976, according to the most recent data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
But they were anything but stagnant in the interim, dropping 16.6 percent between January 1976 to the low point in January 1996.
Since then, weekly paychecks for nonsupervisory workers have regained nearly all that loss, and the upward trend continues.
Warren repeated Kennedys claim during her own speech, saying that wages stay flat in America.
Warren: I mean look around Americans bust their tails, some working two or three jobs, but wages stay flat.
Actually, real average weekly earnings climbed 8.6 percent in the past eight years, and 4.5 percent in the past four years.
Kennedy and Warren are not the only politicians to have made this incorrect claim recently. Flat wages is also a Clinton claim, as we wrote previously here and here, and we flagged Trump on his statement that wages have not been raised here.
Originally the news media was supposed to be Free, Independent and Objective.
That clearly failed.
Then came the Fact Checkers. Free. Independent. Objective.
And that clearly failed.
What’s next from the great and wonderful land of leftist lying propaganda working in total servile coordination with the great and wonderful DNC?
A few???
I am watching a movie and when I get up to answer the phone, my wife changes the channel to the DNC Lie fest. It’s always the same thing. I hear the lie, say something, my wife tells me to shut up and then I leave the room. A few minutes later she comes in and says we never spend time together.
Last night was no different. LaRaza Guttierez was giving his illegal immigrant speech. When I sit back down I hear something about how immigrants should no longer hide in the shadows. Of course I yell at the TV, “Immigrants don’t have to hide in the shadows, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS” hide in the shadows. I get the “shut up” fromn the wife, I get up and go upstairs. 10 minutes later I hear, “we don’t spend time together.”
That’s when I called it a night.
You don’t think that they’ve been winning elections for the past fifty years with the TRUTH, do you??
I am sorry, but I had to turn off the sound and just watch who was speaking. The outright lies, deception, and distortions came so fast I couldn’t keep up. In addition they just fortunately mentioned what I regard as their most important issue other than Global Warming, was the overwhelming need to overturn the Supreme Court decision on “Citizens United”, and Hillary has said she would do it. Don’t ask me how but if it gets to the point she is Prez I don’t doubt she will “getter done”. A thousand reasons to if necessary swallow your “pride” and vote Trump, or if already on the Trump Train, do your duty and hope for success and not disappointment.
The whole convention was a disaster. Everything about it was wrong. They even have a wall around the stage. First they build this stage with this nice open stair cases leading up to the podium, but they put a blue wall around it. Sends a mixed message, are they open to people and their fellow democrats or are they about containing them?
Then they have the fence around the property to keep other democrats out. Nothing says unity like a 8ft steel fence. Plus the stage itself, its dark and cold looking, nothing is vibrant or upbeat. It looks like it is from the 1990’s just like their tired old platform.
Honestly, the Democratic party is a big loser here. If last night was supposed to be planed and managed, it was done so poorly that a high school principal could have done a better job. They screwed everything up, they could not even open their own convention without screwing that up as well.
They sent a message last night, the Democratic Party is the party of screw ups and authoritarians.
Good luck with that
Big government and baby killers.
“Progress”
Better and easier to expose any factual statements.
RATS sound kinda dark.
btt
Thank goodness I married a conservative, but then I made sure. For me I knew it would cause trouble if we held different political views. Especially on my end.
Sounds like you and the wife don’t have much in common. Being opposed politically is about the same as being from two religions. I hope she’s really hot.
“Thank goodness I married a conservative, but then I made sure. For me I knew it would cause trouble if we held different political views. Especially on my end.”
My wife’s family is Jewish. If Hitler had a “D” next to his name they would vote for him.
Free and independent, yes, but never objective. The myth of objectivity was created by the press, to create "trust" where absolutely none is or ever was warranted. Trump has it right, the press is populated with the most dishonest people in the world. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just that people need to know it.
A great new world in the making, I heard Bernie’s speech, soooo much FREE STUFF being promised. Everything will become free or affordable, the minimum wage will be raised. I can’t wait, I can get a 4 Cyl. compact car for only $125,000 so I can run to the store and purchase my $50 loaf of bread. Free education, free medical, free. free, free. ( I can see doctors and dentists earning $50 an hour, can’t you?) Utopia is coming. Sure there were false claims, but does it mater? The minions believe all that comes out of the mouths of the Dem Candidates. Lucky Dems, they seem to convince everyone on the left side of the bell curve.
Elicited an involuntary chuckle out of me, thanks!
Sad story. Ya’ll need 2 tv,s .
randita, I’ve come to believe they are literally incapable of even discussing the issue. It’s just not important in their world. They’re completely disconnected from the rest of the world - the focus is only on how to socialize USA. In fact, most Dems would be okay under Muslim regime, as long as they didn’t have to give up too much personally.
But there certainly used to be more of a diversity of viewpoints.
Airwave media is supposed to be objective, but the FCC doesn't seem to give a hoot, unless it gets too conservative.
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