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VANITY (cuz me)—Say Clinton is Forced Out... How Does that Change the Forecast?

Posted on 07/25/2016 12:03:09 PM PDT by John Robinson

Conversation. It isn't likely to happen regardless of how toxic Clinton has become nor will continue to become, so consider it an idle musing. To what effect would various scenarios play out on the electorate, e.g. elevating Kaine to the top of the ticket, swapping in Bernie, etc. Would that messaging irreparably damage the 2016 Dem presidential ticket, and to what effect will any of this have on the downstream Dem picks?

I'm guessing there is a tinge of Barry Goldwater here, and with that, would future progressive tickets ultimately be empowered by a landslide loss in 2016?


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1 posted on 07/25/2016 12:03:09 PM PDT by John Robinson
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Hillary won’t be forced out. It is too late. The dem voters would be so confused they would stay home. The Bernie voters hate the DNC. The Hillary voters would also hate the DNC for robbing them of voting for Hillary.

This would be a total debacle for the dems.


2 posted on 07/25/2016 12:05:11 PM PDT by GilGil
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Rats have been known to gnaw off a leg to escape
a trap...


3 posted on 07/25/2016 12:05:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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I believe we would see a war between the Clinton clan and the other clans like no one has ever seen before. It would make the cold war look tame.


4 posted on 07/25/2016 12:05:46 PM PDT by Raycpa
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It’s a very interesting question. My feeling is that Clinton is sooo disliked that almost any replacement would be a net positive for the other team. Just how much of a game changer would depend on who they put in her place. If it were Sanders, I hate to say it, but I think we would be in trouble.


5 posted on 07/25/2016 12:05:51 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: GilGil
This would be a total debacle for the dems.

We're actually witnessing a debacle in the making right now.

6 posted on 07/25/2016 12:06:21 PM PDT by Salvey
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Hillary is in for the duration. Hopefully that duration doesn’t extend past January 2017.


7 posted on 07/25/2016 12:06:38 PM PDT by CatOwner
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If they slipped Biden in, he would be coronated by the Left.


8 posted on 07/25/2016 12:07:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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It'd mean DJT wins even Yuger !

 :-)

9 posted on 07/25/2016 12:07:38 PM PDT by tomkat (not known as a deep thinker for nothin' !)
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To: GilGil; All

It’s not too late for Hillary to be dumped.

Wiki though would have to do the indictment email in the next day or two. But they want to hold it until after she’s nominated, then destroy her.

Super Delegates could create an open convention. Problem is they’ve been bought by Hillary. So very unlikely.


10 posted on 07/25/2016 12:07:40 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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I thought that might happen before the convention.
But it’s too late now. Bernie and Fauxahontas have sullied themselves in the eyes of the base by latching on to Hildebeast and supporting her.


11 posted on 07/25/2016 12:08:25 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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There are more emails to be released.

Without knowing just how bad these are, it is impossible to predict.

I however can see a point Hillary drops out of the race.

The Democrats may want to cut their loses and “forfeit” this election.


12 posted on 07/25/2016 12:08:47 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (The government is the problem, not the solution.)
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Kaine would most likely never be elevated to be the Presidential candidate, only because the entire party would be up in arms.

Putting Sanders in there would alienate the Clinton supporters, however, they would be more likely to cast their vote for Sanders. Unlike Sanders supporters who are much less likely to cast their vote for Hillary.

13 posted on 07/25/2016 12:09:16 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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I would think that removing Hillary could do nothing but improve the Democrats chances.


14 posted on 07/25/2016 12:10:25 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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It could very well be that ELIZABETH WARREN could be appointed during the convention.


15 posted on 07/25/2016 12:10:26 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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If Hillary is forced out (for “health reasons”, of course), it would have to be Kaine as her replacement. Or maybe - thinking outside of the box - Michelle Obama. No way would the corrupt Dem establishment consider Sanders or Warren.

Those last two just might upset the establishment apple cart. There’s too much money involved to risk that.


16 posted on 07/25/2016 12:10:45 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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P.S. to my #5. For the record I don’t think that anything short of a felony indictment or diagnosis of a fatal illness would have any chance of knocking the wicked witch out as the Dem nominee.


17 posted on 07/25/2016 12:11:06 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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Neither Clinton in a position of power?

Sweet!

I still think Bernie would suffer a massive loss.

Some of Hillary’s folks would stay home. The independents aren’t going to flock to him more than her IMO.

Trump is the flavor of this election.

He thinks in America First overtones. With as many people out of work, he’s sure to retain traction. Add in his border and immigration policies, and he’s hard to beat. His recognition of Islamic Extremist Terrorism is a move in the right direction. Someone at some point is going to have to admit Islam and Christianity cannot co-exist in the same nation. Trump comes the closest to that, to date.

Go Trump.


18 posted on 07/25/2016 12:11:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: Salvey

If they were to dump her and install someone else at the convention it would be utter chaos!


19 posted on 07/25/2016 12:12:24 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: DoughtyOne

Hillary Clinton is a national UTI.


20 posted on 07/25/2016 12:12:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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