'I am German': Munich gunman in furious exchange with bystander

The Guardian ^ | July 23, 2016 | Bonnie Malkin

[Enchante]

Video has emerged appearing to show the gunman who shot dead at least nine people in Munich involved a furious argument with a witness, shouting “I am German!” and complaining of being bullied.

The shooter, who was found dead with a self-inflicted gunshot wound, was identified by German police as an 18-year-old with dual German and Iranian nationality. He had no criminal record.

In the footage, which was posted on Twitter, an unseen man can be heard shouting abuse at another man, who is clad all in black and pacing on the top floor of an empty car park.

[elpadre]

“..These people do not need a direct connection with Isis or any group. They are able to work independently..”

Isn’t it true that although these wannabe jihadists are not official members of a terrorist group, the terrorist groups have reached out to them, enlisting them in jihad??

[Eurotwit]

I guess the exhange started, then someone decided to film it.

Agree though, it would be interesting to see the whole exchange.

[ViLaLuz]

“Ali Sonboly son of an iranian taxi driver”

[Nifster]

So what?

He was heard shouting Allan ahkbar while killing people.....that ain’t german

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***he likely got dumped on a good bit by German-Turks.***

He appears to be a rather stout fellow from the videos I’ve seen. Definitely not the type to be normally picked on. In the past here in the USA it has always been younger weaker kids who took the brunt of bullying.

[dsc]

“it’s all speculation whether he was in fact linked to an Islamist group.”

It is not speculation that he was himself a pigdog murder-muzzie.

Links to any other group are irrelevant.

[proust]

Balcony man was awesome. Taunting the guy like a monty python sketch.

Gunman: ‘I am German.’

Balcony man: ‘You’re a wanker is what you are’

Gunman: ‘Stop filming!’

Balcony man: ‘A wanker is what you are. What the f**k are you doing?’

Shooter: ‘Yeah what, I was born here.’

Balcony man: ‘Yeah and what the f**k you think you’re doing?’

[dsc]

“Until we reject Islamists, isolate them, shame them, and bomb them into reforming their cult to expel violence and oppression, this will continue to worsen.”

Until we reject pigdog murder-muzzies of all stripes, and bomb them into non-existence, this will continue to worsen.

All muzzies are at war with all that is good and decent, no matter what lies they tell.

[proust]

I thought you were making a joke, like Ali Somebody or something.

Nope, his name was really Ali Sonboly.

[MHGinTN]

Are you a Muslim?

[Bigg Red]

Oh, well there you go. Apparently, the Germans need to invest in some organization to teach anti-bullying in their schools. I am sure that the present administration has a list of friends who offer such services. /s

[pepsionice]

Cops still working on that angle how he got the gun.

Based on video, I’d say he must have had at least fifty rounds. But it didn’t seem like he had a backpack or bag. Almost zero chance that it was legally acquired.

[Steve_Seattle]

I recommend Bruce Bawer's "Why Europe Slept" as a good introduction to what's going on in Europe regarding Muslims. Please don't view this as a justification for mass murder, but - according to Bawer - European Muslims are unable to integrate the way American Muslims can (if they WANT to). This does not just apply to Muslims, but to most immigrants, who are never made to feel that they can become "real" Germans or "real" Frenchmen.

Despite - or because of - mass immigration forced upon them by their governments, many native Europeans in those countries feel that only people like them will ever be authentic citizens. Add this to mass unemployment, ghettoization, and radical religious influences, and you are sitting on a powder keg. The idea of bringing in millions more of these people is madness. Not only will it increase the chances of terrorism, but it will swell the ranks of the neo-Nazi-type individuals, making something like civil war more and more likely. You cannot commit cultural suicide and not expect pushback at some point.

[Cubs Fan]

So he may not have been ISIS inspired, maybe he was just a regular crazy mass murdering Muslim.

Big deal, it’s still islam at work.

[Bigg Red]

Well said!

[Bigg Red]

From the article linked in #5:

Reports also suggest that the teenager changed his WhatsApp profile picture to infamous mass murderer Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people in Norway on 22 July, 2011.

Mr Andrae said there was an ‘obvious’ link between the shocking massacre on Friday and the fifth anniversary of Breivik’s attacks.

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[Chode]

if the cops hiding and covering up the new years grope/rape fest is any indication, i'm not gonna hold my breath as to what they release or when

[VerySadAmerican]

People need to get it through their heads it’s no nationality we’re talking about. IT’S ISLAM! He could be from Kansas for that matter.

[Steve_Seattle]

That article in post #5 gives more detail than I've seen anywhere else. Apart from the alleged "Allahu Akbar" shouts, there is little to suppose a religious motivation, but the police might just be suppressing that angle.

It is interesting that in this article the alleged bullying of the shooter came from "Arabic and Turkish" students, not ethnic Germans. This might end up being more analogous to the Columbine massacre than to any classic Islamist act. And despite Shepard Smith, it was NOT a neo-Nazi act.

[Crucial]

So anyone else would get offended and do some thing constructive about it or just get over it. This guy mass murders because he gets offended like many other Muslims have done and will do.