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Thoughts on Trump's Vice President (Whoever it May Be)

Posted on 07/13/2016 10:41:46 AM PDT by SamAdams76

Within the next 48-72 hours, we should know who Donald Trump has chosen for a running mate. Some think it will be Friday and others think it will be over the weekend. But chances are, we will know by this time on Saturday (just three days from now) as typically candidates want to maximize the convention news cycle and announcing a few days prior will help accomplish that and build some excitement leading into the convention itself.

I have no idea who Trump is going to pick but I do know this: Once the pick is made, there is sure to be much caterwauling, foot stamping and other displays of disappointment, rage and indignation.

I believe that there is no "perfect" running mate for Trump. No matter who he chooses, it is sure to be a letdown for many. I feel that many Trump supporters have built expectations so high for this running mate that there is little chance that Trump can meet them. Maybe Trump does have a surprise pick up his sleeve that has not yet been discussed but of the ones bandied about (Newt, Pence, Sessions, Christie, etc.), there is little WOW factor and will be a lot of BLAH for many.

I will support whoever Trump chooses and I will ride out the resultant storm that is sure to erupt here and elsewhere. Once the dust settles and we have the convention next week, I think we will all get on board and support this ticket as the stakes are too high.

Historically, it seems that the VP pick has always been sort of a letdown and I'm hard pressed to remember an election where the selection of VP made a material difference in the November outcome.

Sarah Palin was definitely the most exciting and "outside the box" choice of my generation. But she had the misfortune to run with McCain, already a grouchy old man with no fire in the belly to win. McCain essentially kept her bottled up and never let her find her own voice. Therefore, the media was able to define her as a lightweight right off the bat. She was to be a bright shining GOP star of the future but was never able to overcome all the media adversity. It also didn't help that unwed daughter Bristol was very much pregnant at convention time and was handled very poorly by the McCain campaign, allowing the media to have a feeding frenzy the weekend into the convention.

One piece of advice for a VP candidate: Know the title of a book you recently read and be prepared to discuss it!

In the end, I do not think Palin made a difference in the 2008 election. McCain lost it on his own. Here's a piece of advice for a presidential candidate: Never "suspend" your campaign in the final stage so that you can help solve a crisis that your party helped create.

My favorite vice president was Dick Cheney but basically they are forgettable footnotes in history. Even Cheney was butt of jokes with his "undisclosed location" meme.

Typically vice presidents that go on to be president don't go on to have successful presidencies. Harry Truman being a notable exception. But when Truman was selected in 1944 by FDR, there was definitely a major BLAH factor. For a Democrat, Truman was mostly OK in my book and is remembered today as one of our better presidents. So you never really know.

But consider this. Maybe Trump is not focused on choosing his potential successor for 2024 (or 2020) with his VP pick. Perhaps he is just looking to put some political experience on the ticket (like GWB did with Cheney) who has no desire to run for president his or herself. This will allow Trump's successor to emerge and be developed at a later time.

Feel free to chime in on who you think will get chosen but this thread isn't really about that. It's about tempering our expectations and making the best of the hand we are about to be dealt.

Here's hoping that Trump has a wild card up his sleeve for VP and really WOWS us like he did when he first announced his own candidacy in New York City just over a year ago. Who knew a year ago that we'd be where we are today! Even if Trump goes with a conventional VP, we will still have a real choice this November.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016veep; christie; flynn; gingrich; pence; runningmate; sessions; trump; veepstakes; vicepresident; vp
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To: SamAdams76

Don’t be Newt, don’t be Newt, don’t be Newt,don’t be Newt...


21 posted on 07/13/2016 11:15:43 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: SamAdams76

Sarah Palin.

Because sometimes you just want to stick your thumb in their eye.


22 posted on 07/13/2016 11:15:53 AM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: Chuckster

Palin doesn’t bring anything new to the table. Her strengths are too similar to Trump’s. He needs a better complement.


23 posted on 07/13/2016 11:18:14 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: SamAdams76
If Chis Christie runs as vice president I will not vote for whoever he runs with. Christie paid $175,000 in an attack add against Conservative Tom Tancredo in Colorado Governor race causing John Chickenpooper to be elected. I can not vote for anyone that gets a demonicrat seated in office.
24 posted on 07/13/2016 11:22:15 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SamAdams76
Trump seems like a due diligence, homework doing kinda guy and doesn't seem like the type to spring something as important as the VP job on someone, for their sake and his.

I don't know who it will be, but it's a sure bet that Trump and that person know and have known the plan for quite a while now.

I could be wrong, of course, but for any number of reasons Trump generally seems several steps ahead of the average radio, cable or antenna TV personality's predictions.

He's political, as the principle of politics is universal, but he's not a professional politician and isn't playing the same game as the talking heads are used to.

But, otoh, he seems to completely understand the talking heads' game and that's been a great deal of fun to watch!

25 posted on 07/13/2016 11:24:32 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Genoa

Oh, I know. I am confident Trump will choose exactly the right person for his purposes - Winning. He can worry about succession later.

But sometimes, don’t you just want to stick it in and break it off? Sarah would set the prairie on fire and that is a very dangerous thing but after the way she was treated I would love to see it.


26 posted on 07/13/2016 11:25:37 AM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Bush II picking Cheney helped him in the West. It solidified the rural white vote.


27 posted on 07/13/2016 11:28:47 AM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: SamAdams76

Looking to me like he is going to pick Newt.

Newt will be an absolute machete on the campaign trail.
Will do an excellent job slashing away at Democrat nonsense.

My main concern is that he’s as old as Trump. We need to groom someone younger to take over so that the Bush crowd does not wrest control of the party back in eight years. Perhaps Newt could step aside after the first term.


28 posted on 07/13/2016 11:33:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: proust

My choice is Jeff Sessions.


29 posted on 07/13/2016 11:35:40 AM PDT by Dog (..."I'm just a cook...")
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To: SamAdams76

Sessions, with him I know the WALL will be built and the illegals gone.

Newt - too much baggage
Pence - Koch’s pick


30 posted on 07/13/2016 11:54:23 AM PDT by sheehan (Vote TRUMP, do it.)
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To: Genoa

“I agree that Bush not only had no heir apparent but didn’t bother to try and find one either. Pence is both young and seasoned. At 57 he has a long future ahead of him. And should the worst happen, he would make a good president.”

The only thing I know about Pence is that he cowardly surrendered to the gaystapo when they threatened a boycott of Indiana over a proposed Religious Freedom law. He couldn’t capitulate fast enough. That tells me all I need to know about Pence.

Why would someone as Politically Incorrect as Trump want a milquetoast, Politically Correct panderer as VP??


31 posted on 07/13/2016 12:58:19 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Proud Islamophobe.)
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To: GBA; All
I think it will be a surprise: Vlad. Putin and Trump have a lot in common.

 photo TRUMP PUTIN WIVES_zpsomkr79br.jpg

32 posted on 07/13/2016 1:02:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

As someone else has posted, it seems that the law as written would have had a hard time being upheld and it would have been a damaging precedent. The decision was strategic. I don’t know the circumstances. But I do believe Pence’s convictions remain the same, and he does not favor SSM. He is a Christian.


33 posted on 07/13/2016 1:04:38 PM PDT by Genoa
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To: Cobra64

Wait! Did Putin marry the human pretzel gymnast girl? How did I miss that??


34 posted on 07/13/2016 1:05:26 PM PDT by Genoa
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To: Cobra64

I hear that the one on the left can put BOTH feet behind her head.

5.56mm


35 posted on 07/13/2016 1:13:53 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: grania

And, The art of the Donald? Veepstakes is all we are talking about for the next couple of days


36 posted on 07/13/2016 1:13:56 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: M Kehoe

Most likely. :-)


37 posted on 07/13/2016 1:16:32 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: M Kehoe

I saw a photo of her with both feet on the floor in front of her face. :-)


38 posted on 07/13/2016 1:16:33 PM PDT by Genoa
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To: SamAdams76

Harry Truman was an unqualified socialist dog, he’s remembered fondly by lib historians who deliberately chose to rehabilitate his image, he was as popular as dirt for most of his Presidency and was handed major midterm beatdowns in 1946 and 1950. If RINO Dewey hadn’t run a lackluster race in 1948, Harry would have been out on his butt. If you want to fixate on him dropping the bomb (as almost anyone would have done) and say he’s the best rat of the 20th Century, fine. But that’s like saying he’s the least deadly strain of the plague.

The last democrat President who wasn’t slime was Grover Cleveland, before him, Polk.


39 posted on 07/13/2016 2:23:20 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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To: Impy

Henry Wallace wouldn’t have used the bomb.


40 posted on 07/13/2016 2:36:32 PM PDT by Genoa
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