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I love how, in the last two paragraphs, the author admits it's not actually helping.
1 posted on 07/05/2016 7:56:12 AM PDT by Rio
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To: Rio

Or, you can believe that the “ozone hole” shrunk naturally as it always does.


2 posted on 07/05/2016 7:59:09 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Make Our Founding Documents Great Again!)
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To: Rio

“except when it didn’t” should be in the title too


3 posted on 07/05/2016 7:59:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Rio
There's nothing ‘environmental scientists’ can say that's believable... might be true - might not be true. It's politics... not science.
4 posted on 07/05/2016 7:59:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (If the U.S. had treated EACH German SS as a 'lone wolf' we would have lost World War II.)
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I suspect this is such total B.S., it should get the Golden Fickle Finger of Fate Award.


5 posted on 07/05/2016 8:00:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: Rio

... and how it appears that a single volcanic eruption puts more damaging particulate in the air than human beings ever can.

And if it took 40 years (Not 3 decades... the CFC bans started in 76, yes?) then are we to assume that the damage started in 1895 ?

All those Victorian aerosol cans and the millions of Duesenbergs must have done this.


6 posted on 07/05/2016 8:01:23 AM PDT by Celerity
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Perhaps the smaller hole is causing the shrinking of the ice cover??

The size of the hole is shrinking but what is the effect.

7 posted on 07/05/2016 8:02:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Wait a minute! What was that last part? ...except in 2015... it was largest... because volcano?

And by the way, if less ozone created more clouds at lower temperatures over the polar region, did it cause global warming or global cooling? Have we found a way to combat global warming here?

I find no credibility in this piece.


9 posted on 07/05/2016 8:05:36 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Rio
As with any study, the first two questions are:
  1. Who paid for it?

  2. What answer do they want to hear?

Her employers and associations are quite a rogue's gallery. Read more here:

Wikipedia: Susan Soloman


10 posted on 07/05/2016 8:07:20 AM PDT by snarkpup (Socialism causes the worst people to become in charge - if they aren't already.)
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Aren’t we amazing humans

What arrogance.

14 posted on 07/05/2016 8:15:48 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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The southern hemisphere is mostly ocean, and uninhabited.

Yet we are to believe that northern hemisphere pollution, spiraling northward, made the the difference? And that other factors of which volcanic eruptions is one, are not dominant?

Yes, “What arrogance!” from these government grant funded, pseudo science, weasels.


16 posted on 07/05/2016 8:36:19 AM PDT by cicero2k
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Uh huh. I’m thinking that if they banned the real cause of the ozone hole it would have closed completely by now.


17 posted on 07/05/2016 8:46:17 AM PDT by GingisK
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Side-stepping whether the ban has actually been the cause of the restoration of the ozone layer, the ban worked because it was a universal ban (except on those compounds for which there weren’t practical substitutes). The Montreal Protocol wasn’t a partial ban, capping emissions in some countries and leaving emissions uncapped in other countries, like Kyoto. Nor did the Montreal Protocol involve BIG subsidies from the highly advanced countries (who had to do the cutting) to the developing countries (which didn’t have to cut anything).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol

Even if the science behind the Kyoto Agreement were correct, the economics of it would have meant that there would be no NET reduction in emissions of carbon dioxide. The reductions in the countries with the caps would be off-set by the increases in the countries without the caps. Except, I don’t have to say “would be.” This is what has happened. The economics has proven correct. So, the Kyoto Agreement is just another case of whack-a-Mole. The Kyoto Agreement merely shifted industrial production from the highly advanced economies to the developing countries, contributing to the economic plight of the working class in the highly advanced economies.

The Paris Agreement is hardly any different. Again, the highly advanced economies are called up to do all the heavy lifting in terms of cutting back on their use of carbon-based fuel, and also in terms of making payments to the developing countries. The only twist is that developing countries are asked to develop non-binding targets for their increases in their emissions going out to the exhaustion of the world’s entire supply of proven reserves.

So, the success of the Montreal Protocol doesn’t say that the Kyoto Agreement has any chance of reducing the emission of new carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, no less stabilizing or reducing the amount of carbon dioxide already there.


18 posted on 07/05/2016 9:20:43 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Rio

Stupid science tricks. The ozone hole is smaller during a solar maximum. Which was last year. The hole will open up to record levels in 4 years.


19 posted on 07/05/2016 9:24:40 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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I’m wearing a red necktie and see no elephants therefore red neckties repel elephants. We have no evidence the ozone hole might not have shrunk despite the ban


20 posted on 07/05/2016 9:28:36 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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We never had the technology to measure ozone until DuPont’s patent on R12 ran out. It’s just another junk science scam perpetrated on the world.


21 posted on 07/05/2016 9:43:33 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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Yeah this is unmitigated bull sh**.
No idea how the CFCs were suppose to get down there to do the damage. No idea if Ozone holes are cyclic. No they just assumed and bad a ban and then when THIRTEEN years later it started shrinking they all patted themselves on the back. Steaming pile of smelly bullsh**.


23 posted on 07/05/2016 11:12:59 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Rio

What bullsh!t.


25 posted on 07/05/2016 12:04:23 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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