Posted on 06/26/2016 12:53:24 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
If there’s one thing I’ve learned about the antivaccine movement, it’s that its members dislike being criticized. Oh, hell, let’s be honest. The really, really hate criticism and react very, very badly to it. Whereas you or I or other skeptics might react to criticism by trying to address it using facts, science, and reason, the first reaction of many antivaccine loons is to attack, attack, attack.
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Pro-vaccers are often tyrants who want to force people to do what they don’t want to do.
I have debated anti-vax people on several websites and found them frequently vicious. It is a religion to many of them. Logical points are dismissed in favor of junk science and emotion.
Those who can’t stand the heat don’t belong in the kitchen.
I’ll have to come back later and finish the article. It’s extremely long. Meanwhile, was anyone prosecuted or at least reported to the police? Otherwise, nothing will change.
Vaccines protect everyone. There is a video a woman put online of her infant with whooping cough. The baby was too young to have received its first vaccination and was infected by someone else. People who don’t vaccinate their children and themselves are responsible for harming others. It’s a public health issue, not a private one.
As for the HPV vaccine, that is different. Nobody gets HPV from sneezing on another person. That should be a matter of choice.
Anti vax, Pro Trump supporter here. There goes your argument. I’m anti-anything someone else tells me to do because they think I’m too stupid to research, weigh the risk/benefits and make an informed decision based on the circumstances and risk.
The vector to the baby is likely one of the adults the baby comes in contact with. The whooping cough vaccine only lasts a few years and adults were not being vaccinated with it. It's now on the schedule but only when you get a tetanus shot and how many people are up to date with that?
The research has been done and is compelling. Vaccines save lives. If what you did affected you only, you would have an argument, but other people, especially babies, are at risk from those who are not vaccinated.
“It’s now on the schedule but only when you get a tetanus shot and how many people are up to date with that?”
My entire family is because we have young children in our family.
>The research has been done and is compelling.
Call to authority fallacy
> Vaccines save lives.
Generalization fallacy.
> other people, especially babies, are at risk from those who are not vaccinated
Unfounded inference.
This is why there are a great many skeptics, because of pro-vax arguments like this. You have zero interest in the concerns of skeptics, and are trying to beat them over the head with fallacies, so naturally you’re going to get blowback and even more skepticism in the wake of such tactics.
These are not fallacies just because you believe they are. Look at the facts and see for yourself. All the nonsense peddled by anti-vax people are demonstrably false. Check out the links in the story and you will see that all of their notions have been proven to be bogus, but no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary, anti-vax devotees refuse to face the facts.
“I have debated anti-vax people on several websites and found them frequently vicious. It is a religion to many of them. Logical points are dismissed in favor of junk science and emotion.”
Maybe. But they just want to be left alone with their science, or junk science, as the case may be. I don’t begrudge them that.
As that post is yet another call-to-authority fallacy, you just proved my point. You sound just like a global warming alarmist.
Given the intrinsic laziness of modern law enforcement (unless it’s called upon to trample the rights of American citizens underfoot on behalf of their progressive masters), nothing will change even if you report it.
They take marginal science and turn it into a credo
Most have never soon a polio wars or cases of whooping cough or seen the damage done by measles
I didn’t say vaccines didn’t save lives or are bad. I know they do. I have a medical background, I was merely showing the argument that was prsented Is the same as the climate change “science” and the “science” on gun violence. Are you giving up your car or getting rid of your guns based on the “science”?
Really? It’s the anti-vax people who are like the global warming nuts. The science is there and it’s settled. I could give you all the evidence in the world and you would reject it.
Real bright. Maybe you can explain why polio and most diseases we all had in the old days went away?
And why they all came back when the nutty anti-vaxers started their luddite jihad?
Not surprised. Anti-vaxers are fueled by emotion, not logic.
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