Posted on 06/16/2016 10:17:48 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
Former Department of Homeland Security official Philip Haney wishes he was more surprised by the Orlando terrorist attack, but as he pointed out on Breitbart News Daily this week, the attack came from exactly the sort of Islamic radical network he got in trouble for studying too carefully.
Indeed, one of the major points he stressed during a follow-up interview is that many of the purported barriers between these networks are bureaucratic illusions they are larger, better-funded, and more interconnected than the Obama administration wants to admit.
I asked Haney about the false, but very loudly repeated, administration narrative that Orlando jihadi Omar Mateen was self-radicalized an assertion that grows more ridiculous with each new revelation about his background.
Haney described the self-radicalization narrative as surreal.
Imagine what it must have been like to be an active-duty subject matter expert in counter-terrorism, he said:
"I had my own superiors making these kind of statements incessantly. When I was sitting there with evidence, for example, about the Ft. Pierce mosque not only was there another person that blew himself up in Syria, but theres an individual who is teaching a radicalization course who is on early release for weapons charges and tax fraud. And then his own father is vice-president of the mosque."
As though nobody knew anything thats completely preposterous. If you know anything about the Islamic worldview, family and community is ultimately central to everything they do. The concept of operating alone is anathema to the Islamic worldview. They just dont do it.
So, self-radicalization what does that even mean any more? Nobody is self-anything in this world we live in.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
All they have to do is read the Koran and believe it.
Once they start following Mad Mo’s example, the rest of us are in peril.
If he cheered the destruction of the Twin Towers as a kid, that had to come from somewhere. It came from his family, and it came early in life.
He was born here, because he father was allowed to come here. He should not have been.
The system is not designed to catch people like this, in fact it seems designed to not catch people like this. They allowed his father to immigrate, he was allowed to work for a Homeland Security subcontractor, he was investigated by FBI who decided that suspicions about him were bigotry.
Is that Mr Haney from “Green ACRES”?
Born and raised muslim....raised to kill...it’s their command.
He’s right on them not doing things on their own... the AQ sleepers could think up all kinds of plots but always had to propose them to bin Laden and the other leaders for approval.
The system seems to be designed to never catch people like this - it turns out a gun shop turned him in for "odd requests/questions" and the Feebs did nothing....
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/53110.html
"Omar Mateen spent ten days in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) in 2011 and 2012. There is no way that all the associates of Mateen in those two trips can be known in four days. Nor what if any training or Islamist materials Mateen might have received on small items like USB drives while on those trips.?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/15/mateens-twin-trips-to-saudi-arabia-raise-suspicions.html
Mateens first trip to Saudi Arabia was for 10 days, and the jaunt a year later was for eight. The 2011 trip was arranged by U.S.-based Islamic travel agency Dar El Salam and was a package the company calls the Sacred Caravan Umrah. The package costs up to $4,000 and is generally comprised of four nights at four-star accommodations in Mecca and six nights in Medina, complete with buffet meals, sightseeing and religious studies and lectures. The travel agency did not respond to a request for comment. The second trip included a stop in the United Arab Emirates, but the exact itinerary of either trip is not known. The FBI, which searched Mateens condominium in Fort Pierce, Fla., overnight Sunday and into Monday morning, taking a computer and several other items, declined to comment on what investigators may have learned about Mateens travels. Muslim leaders said it was unusual for Mateen to have made two visits to Saudi Arabia in consecutive years the first when he was just 24. Its not cheap to do so and people that young usually dont go twice, said Adnan Khan, former leader of the Council of Pakistan-American Affairs. And especially considering he appeared not to have come from a staunchly religious background. Two trips in as many years is a bright red flag, said Mauro
"... Orlando gunman Omar Mateens two trips to Saudi Arabia, one of which was a pricey package that included four-star accommodations and fancy meals, were highly unusual and may have been cover for terror training, according to experts.
It is at least reasonably possible, if not likely, that Mateen was recruited as a terrorist while in Arabia. Whether he received any terrorist training while there, in view of his known marksmanship skill (head shot on a Orlando SWAT trooper stopped by the military-style helmet), depends on the firearms training he may have as a security guard.
And at that this point we must consider whether the 2nd FBI investigation of Mateen was even aware that there had been a prior FBI investigation of him.
"Terrorism," the way the authorities use the word always involves some ideology, and that ideology is almost always shared with somebody else in the world.
Somebody who commits acts of violence because they don't like their utility bills or because they love Jody Foster or because they hear voices isn't a "terrorist" in the way the word is usually used.
The distinction isn't between terrorists who have been influenced in some way by something outside themselves and killers who came up with some idea entirely on their own. It's between people who've been trained and are an official member of an organization, and those who act on their own without any direction or training.
We don't yet know which category Mateen fits into, but a lot of the commentary is just confusing things.
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