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Denise Cortes: I Would Shoot 10 Gorillas If My Child’s Life Was In Danger
Baby Center.com ^ | May 31, 2016, 11:23 am

Posted on 06/01/2016 9:23:46 AM PDT by drewh

This weekend, my Facebook timeline was flooded with people mourning the death of Harambe, a 400-pound, 17-year-old western lowland silverback gorilla who was shot and killed on Saturday, May 28, after a 4-year-old boy tumbled into Cincinnati Zoo’s gorilla exhibit. Although Harambe seemed calm at first — protective of the boy, even — witnesses say he became agitated with the chaos of the unfolding scene. The video of Harambe dragging the little boy around in the water of the moat took my breath away.

The zoo’s Dangerous Animal Response Team decided to use deadly force instead of tranquilizers to subdue the gorilla because it would’ve taken too long for the drug to take effect when the animal was in an agitated state. This is a sad situation all around — sad for the family going through a traumatic event when they no doubt just planned a fun day at the zoo with their children, and sad for a majestic animal that lost his life.

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Yet, people are outraged. They are signing “Justice for Harambe” petitions, they are creating horrible memes, they are leaving hateful, racist comments on the internets blaming the mother of being neglectful — in short, they want the parents of this little boy to be held responsible for the life of Harambe. Which is crazy, in my humble opinion. There has been so much vitriol directed at the parents of this little boy, I’m astounded.

It could have been you.

The sobering truth is, when you’re a mom, there will be moments (many of them) when your child will wiggle away from your grasp. Some children just have a gift of stealth. It’s frightening. Ask any mom and she can supply you with a handful of hair-raising stories. If you ask a mom of boys, she might have more than a handful. Ask a mom with a large family, like myself, and she may just talk your ear off all night. Does it mean we’re terrible mothers? Does it mean our children are neglected? Does it mean you have the right to judge others? No. Absolutely not.

An eyewitness from the New York Times said this, “I don’t feel like it was neglectful. She had three other kids that she was with. She had a baby in her arms. It was literally the blink of an eye.” She added: “I saw it, and I couldn’t even prevent it. It happened so fast.”

Stuff happens. Bad stuff. Scary stuff. Sometimes, we just have to thank the heavens that our children lived to tell the tale.

I’m the type of person who feels a certain level of anxiety and discomfort whenever I have to visit a place where animals are in captivity. The knowledge that large, wild animals are nearby and separated by only a plane of glass or a fence only intensifies those feelings. Having one of my children fall into an animal enclosure (whether at the zoo or an aquarium) has to be one of my worst fears.

I can’t imagine the fear and panic the parents of this little boy were feeling. Even if this animal is known to be peaceful, this could have gone wrong in so many ways. I’m so thankful it didn’t and I’m grateful that the Cincinnati Zoo did the right thing and they’re standing by their decision.

I love majestic animals too, but if it was dragging around one of my children by the ankle — anyone’s child, for that matter — I wouldn’t bat an eyelash at shooting him dead.


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1 posted on 06/01/2016 9:23:46 AM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

Why would your child be with 10 gorillas? Oh, because of YOUR own negligence!


2 posted on 06/01/2016 9:26:17 AM PDT by sagar
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To: drewh

So this mommy blogger likes guns. Cool. Good to know.


3 posted on 06/01/2016 9:30:42 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: drewh
An eyewitness from the New York Times said this, “I don’t feel like it was neglectful. She had three other kids that she was with.

Other 'eyewitnesses' have also reported that mom was distracted while using her cell phone. This may be why the police are investigating.

I guess we'll have to wait to see what comes out.

4 posted on 06/01/2016 9:31:12 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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To: drewh

Here’s to another thread bashing the parents.


5 posted on 06/01/2016 9:32:12 AM PDT by gettinolder
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To: sagar

Pretty harsh...ever been to Disneyland, a parade, or a fair..look around and see how often a parent loses visual contact with their child for more than a few seconds..it happens..most parents try their very best, but toddlers are unpredictable and curious, I am thankful this all turned out well.


6 posted on 06/01/2016 9:32:30 AM PDT by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: drewh

But the main question:
Would you stand up on top and keep saying “mommy’s here”, or would you jump in?


7 posted on 06/01/2016 9:32:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DesertRhino
But the main question: Would you stand up on top and keep saying “mommy’s here”, or would you jump in?

Neither, I'd grab closest employee and tell them to get the sniper ASAP.

8 posted on 06/01/2016 9:34:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I guess we'll have to wait to see what comes out.

She's one of "holder's people" nothing will happen.

9 posted on 06/01/2016 9:34:31 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: drewh

#jsuticeforharambe


10 posted on 06/01/2016 9:35:23 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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“Denise Cortes: I Would Shoot 10 Gorillas If My Child’s Life Was In Danger”

So the kid might be in a bit of trouble if there’s 11. How about 12?


11 posted on 06/01/2016 9:36:01 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: drewh

What if the shooter would have missed the gorilla and hit the kid?


12 posted on 06/01/2016 9:36:44 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: drewh

I wonder if she would let one of her kids wander off and fall 15 ft into an enclosure?


13 posted on 06/01/2016 9:37:23 AM PDT by zek157
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To: drewh

Amanda O’Donoughue
May 30 at 8:25pm ·

I am going to try to clear up a few things that have been weighing on me about Harambe and the Cinci Zoo since I read the news this afternoon.
I have worked with Gorillas as a zookeeper while in my twenties (before children) and they are my favorite animal (out of dozens) that I have ever worked closely with. I am gonna go ahead and list a few facts, thoughts and opinions for those of you that aren’t familiar with the species itself, or how a zoo operates in emergency situations.

Now Gorillas are considered ‘gentle giants’ at least when compared with their more aggressive cousins the chimpanzee, but a 400+ pound male in his prime is as strong as roughly 10 adult humans. What can you bench press? OK, now multiply that number by ten. An adult male silverback gorilla has one job, to protect his group. He does this by bluffing or intimidating anything that he feels threatened by.

Gorillas are considered a Class 1 mammal, the most dangerous class of mammals in the animal kingdom, again, merely due to their size and strength. They are grouped in with other apes, tigers, lions, bears, etc.
While working in an AZA accredited zoo with Apes, keepers DO NOT work in contact with them. Meaning they do NOT go in with these animals. There is always a welded mesh barrier between the animal and the humans.
In more recent decades, zoos have begun to redesign enclosures, removing all obvious caging and attempting to create a seamless view of the animals for the visitor to enjoy watching animals in a more natural looking habitat. *this is great until little children begin falling into exhibits* which of course can happen to anyone, especially in a crowded zoo-like setting.

I have watched this video over again, and with the silverback’s postering, and tight lips, it’s pretty much the stuff of any keeper’s nightmares, and I have had MANY while working with them. This job is not for the complacent. Gorillas are kind, curious, and sometimes silly, but they are also very large, very strong animals. I always brought my OCD to work with me. checking and rechecking locks to make sure my animals and I remained separated before entering to clean.

I keep hearing that the Gorilla was trying to protect the boy. I do not find this to be true. Harambe reaches for the boys hands and arms, but only to position the child better for his own displaying purposes.
Males do very elaborate displays when highly agitated, slamming and dragging things about. Typically they would drag large branches, barrels and heavy weighted balls around to make as much noise as possible. Not in an effort to hurt anyone or anything (usually) but just to intimidate. It was clear to me that he was reacting to the screams coming from the gathering crowd.

Harambe was most likely not going to separate himself from that child without seriously hurting him first (again due to mere size and strength, not malicious intent) Why didn’t they use treats? well, they attempted to call them off exhibit (which animals hate), the females in the group came in, but Harambe did not. What better treat for a captive animal than a real live kid!
They didn’t use Tranquilizers for a few reasons, A. Harambe would’ve taken too long to become immobilized, and could have really injured the child in the process as the drugs used may not work quickly enough depending on the stress of the situation and the dose B. Harambe would’ve have drowned in the moat if immobilized in the water, and possibly fallen on the boy trapping him and drowning him as well.
Many zoos have the protocol to call on their expertly trained dart team in the event of an animal escape or in the event that a human is trapped with a dangerous animal. They will evaluate the scene as quickly and as safely as possible, and will make the most informed decision as how they will handle the animal.
I can’t point fingers at anyone in this situation, but we need to really evaluate the safety of the animal enclosures from the visitor side. Not impeding that view is a tough one, but there should be no way that someone can find themselves inside of an animal’s exhibit.
I know one thing for sure, those keepers lost a beautiful, and I mean gorgeous silverback and friend. I feel their loss with them this week. As educators and conservators of endangered species, all we can do is shine a light on the beauty and majesty of these animals in hopes to spark a love and a need to keep them from vanishing from our planet. Child killers, they are not. It’s unfortunate for the conservation of the species, and the loss of revenue a beautiful zoo such as Cinci will lose. tragedy all around.

*me working (very carefully) with a 400+ pound silverback circa 2009


14 posted on 06/01/2016 9:40:56 AM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: drewh

I get the very strong feeling that those who are crying over the ape being killed are pro abortion murder fans so their opinion means nothing to me. If that was my son I would have shot the ape myself. Human life over animal life; it’s as simple as that.


15 posted on 06/01/2016 9:42:34 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: WinMod70

In New York she would only have seven Bullets.


16 posted on 06/01/2016 9:42:55 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Anyone catch the There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat Party. (Or the GOPe))
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To: drewh

I would shoot 10 humans who were deliberately endangering the life of a child of mine.


17 posted on 06/01/2016 9:48:08 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: drewh

Me too.


18 posted on 06/01/2016 9:50:30 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper ((Just say no to HRC))
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To: rockabyebaby

They will all soon be at the white house having finger samichs and grape soda


19 posted on 06/01/2016 9:52:16 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: drewh

News flash! Toddlers do not always listen nor do they make good decisions.


20 posted on 06/01/2016 9:53:40 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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