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Obama is ignorant of the history of WWII and his statements about Hiroshima are a disgusting insult to the patriotic Americans who sacrificed so much to fight and win WWII.

Dropping atomic bombs on Japan by the most conservative of estimates saved over a million lives. The optimistic invasion plans expected at least .5 million American deaths and over 1 million Japanese deaths. The actual number would have been much higher. The Japanese were ordered to fight to the death. In the battle of Okinawa just before the planned invasion, all 100,00 Japanese had been killed. American casualties were over 70,000.

Who knows how many total casualties would have resulted from an invasion of Japan. But it would have likely been in the millions.

The atomic bombs forced Japan to surrender and allowed Japan to rebuild its country after WWII.

Obama is ignorant. His constant bad mouthing of America and patriotic Americans is disgusting.

Obama has never sacrificed anything for America. He has no right criticize patriotic Americans.

1 posted on 05/27/2016 10:00:34 PM PDT by detective
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For us and for them. barkie is an incredible maroon.


2 posted on 05/27/2016 10:02:50 PM PDT by 867V309 (It's over. It's over now.)
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Once you review Operation Downfall and what a land invasion of Japan meant...you really shake your head over the extended war (probably not ending until mid-1947).

The other curious thing which is never discussed....the Russians would have moved their land-troops to the east and probably started an invasion of their own upon Japan. The Russians were working on their own nuke, and who is to say that by the end of 1946...they had the opportunity to dump a nuke on Japan.


3 posted on 05/27/2016 10:05:20 PM PDT by pepsionice
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I recall asking MarineBratDad about it some 45 years ago. He was part of the occupation force and I’ve got a Japanese Arisaka souvenir of war rifle in my closet to prove it.

His exact words were “They dropped the bomb, the war was over, and that was all right with your father.”

My opinion was formed at that moment.


5 posted on 05/27/2016 10:08:16 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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The Japs were never de-Shinto-ized like the Germans were de-Nazified.


6 posted on 05/27/2016 10:08:44 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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I don't think you should say, "it was a good thing." I don't think any of our generals thought it was, "a good thing." It may have been a necessary thing, but not, "a good thing."

Also, Japan surrendered because of Russia, not the bomb. By the time we dropped the atomic bombs, we had already destroyed most of Japan's major and medium cities by conventional bombings. There weren't many cities left for us to bomb, except the ones that were so far north, we couldn't reach.

7 posted on 05/27/2016 10:10:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I doubt Obama talked much about Detroit and the success of democrat leadership. some_text some_text
9 posted on 05/27/2016 10:16:28 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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This is merely one more in a seemingly endless parade of examples of ignorance on Obama’s part. Lest they walk free and clear, he merely represents the thinking of most of the Left in the United States, haters of the U. S. one and all.

If you’re a registered Democrat these days, you’re either an enemy of the nation or brain dead.

Of course Obama goes beyond the mere despising of the nation and what it has stood for, to actually teaming up with it’s terrorist enemy’s organizations.

The man has used the Muslim Brotherhood for advisors in OUR White House, and has armed both it and al Qaeda.

For years on end he has been releasing terrorist leaders from Guantanamo to rejoin their former organizations to carry out terrorist against the United States and the West.

Of course they are a threat to Russia and everyone else too.

All the way from Southeast Asia, through Europe, and into the Americas, Obama has destabilized the world. He is either the world’s most ignorant leader ever, or charges should be brought up against him, he should be prosecuted, and when convicted should be incarcerated for life or simply shot at high noon.

I knew people who fought on Iwo Jima and other Pacific campaigns. They could tell you a think or two about Japan’s intention to surrender.

Of course Obama never bothered to give them as much attention as the enemies of our nation, of which he is one.


10 posted on 05/27/2016 10:25:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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Thank God for the Bomb, by Paul Fussell

Paul Fussell was an infantry lieutenant during World War II. In this book’s title essay, he evokes the ethos of wartime sentiment without flinching from Allied barbarism, then proposes that postwar arguments condemning President Harry Truman’s decision to drop atomic bombs on Japan characteristically emanate from authors who have never experienced combat.

12 posted on 05/27/2016 10:32:33 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When a merely bad President is not enough)
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Meanwhile, another poll conducted by the Detroit Free Press in the United States and Japan in 1991 found that 63 percent of Americans thought that the bombings were justified in a bid to end the war, while just 29 percent of Japanese did.

The 150,000 odd dead civilians from Okinawa [out of 300,000] were unable to express their dead opinions in the Free Press poll.

14 posted on 05/27/2016 10:33:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (To the GOPee: "Giving the Democrats the Supreme Court means you ARE the Democrats.")
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Obama is ignorant of the history of WWII and his statements about Hiroshima are a disgusting insult to the patriotic Americans who sacrificed so much to fight and win WWII.

What would a stupid Muslim doper klown like 0bama know about history?

15 posted on 05/27/2016 10:34:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (To the GOPee: "Giving the Democrats the Supreme Court means you ARE the Democrats.")
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Hes not,ignorant. He is a globalist new world order,,post america cultural elite.

He knows what hes doing. It isnt out of ignorance.

His whole illegal alien policy is all about that as well.


17 posted on 05/27/2016 10:35:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The bombs certainly saved more Japanese lives than they took. Their effect was more psychological than anything and conventional weapons certainly killed way more Japanese than the A bombs ever did.

What should also be mentioned is that they probably saved a lot of Russian and European lives too by checking Stalin's plans for a global communist revolution.

It must also be noted that there has not been a WW3 since the advent of these weapons. The first century of the nuclear age has been relatively peaceful compared to the century preceding the nuclear age.

The bombs have saved infinitely more lives than they have taken and it is a false prophet indeed that claims to want to rid the world of nuclear wepaons in order to promote peace. Obama.

18 posted on 05/27/2016 10:35:49 PM PDT by RC one
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I notice unanimity among “conservatives” that dropping the bombs was moral.

The Allies’ demand for unconditional surrender was immoral.

Murdering civilians is immoral.

Consequentislism is also immoral. I.e., “dropping the bombs saved lives.”


20 posted on 05/27/2016 11:04:20 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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The rules of a just war to which America has usually adhered, forbid the direct killing of enemy innocents even in war.


24 posted on 05/28/2016 12:19:29 AM PDT by amihow (lT)
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The Atomic bombs (along with Russian attacks)did save

millions of Japanese.

“Gas attacks of the size and intensity recommended on these 250 square miles of urban population,” the US Army report declared, “might easily kill 5,000,000 people and injure that many more.” In the first attack, which would be launched 15 days before the Kyushu landings, American bombers would drench much of Tokyo and other cities in an early morning attack with 54,000 tons of lethal phosgene gas. Tokyo would be the largest poison gas target, because an “attack of this size against an urban city of large population should be used to initiate gas warfare.”

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p12_weber.html

...Allen, T.B. and N. Polmar, “Poisonous invasion prelude,” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Aug. 4, 1995 [New York Times special features].)

Some sources say only tactical use had been approved.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/pacific-online-forum/

“Politics” told Truman that if one American life could have been saved by the use of the Atomic bombs...it must be done...

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/no-other-choice-why-truman-dropped-the-atomic-bomb-japan-13504

& agreed...without the Atomic Bombs there would be fewer of us Baby Boomers.

After visiting several interesting countries of Europe my Father was on a cruise ( ; ) ship to Japan when the Atomic Bombs were used.


26 posted on 05/28/2016 1:45:53 AM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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If Barkie is so concerned about the brutality of government, then I can’t wait until he goes to Russia and China and Cambodia, and a dozen other Marxist paradises, where innocent human life was extinguished at the scale of a hundred million people in the 20th century.


31 posted on 05/28/2016 3:43:32 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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DailyMotion: Bill Whittle on the true story of the atomic bombs Bill brilliantly addressed the pathetic views of Jon Stewart which mirrors those of the ignorant apologizer-in-chief
32 posted on 05/28/2016 3:51:36 AM PDT by wtd
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And don’t forget all those Godzilla movies!


35 posted on 05/28/2016 4:19:39 AM PDT by fruser1
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No has ever explained it better than Paul Fussel. Thank God for the Atom Bomb.
36 posted on 05/28/2016 4:48:01 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I'm not a smug know-it-all; I just want you to experience epistemological closure.)
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Every country whose butt we’ve kicked was better off for it.

Until the socialists took over.


39 posted on 05/28/2016 5:29:21 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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