Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why might Vietnam let US military return? China.
Times of India ^

Posted on 05/20/2016 5:10:16 AM PDT by LoneCrusader

CAM RANH BAY, Vietnam — The ghosts of the Vietnam War have finally faded at the strategic port of Cam Ranh Bay. More than 40 years ago, US forces left this massive base where Marines landed, B-52s loaded up for bombing raids, and wounded US soldiers were treated.

Now, some Vietnamese say they are yearning for the US military to return.

"On Facebook, there was a question recently: What do you want from President Obama's visit?" said Vo Van Tao, 63, who fought as a young North Vietnamese infantry soldier against the United States. "Some people said they wanted democracy. I said I wanted the Americans to come back to Cam Ranh Bay. A lot of people agreed with me."

President Barack Obama is scheduled to arrive Sunday in Vietnam, the third visit by a US president since the war ended. The big question he is expected to answer is whether Washington will lift a partial arms embargo and allow Vietnam to buy lethal weapons from the United States. The Communist government has long asked for the ban to be revoked, and US access to Cam Ranh Bay could be part of the payoff.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofindia.indiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; camrahnbay; china; election2016; newyork; trump; vietnam
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-75 next last
To: central_va
I am sure the NVA has nice Nike shoes for all of their troops.

When did they change over from the Ho Chi Minh sandals?

http://www.vietnam-surplus.com/hochimisa.html

21 posted on 05/20/2016 6:04:17 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: LoneCrusader

I spent 11 months in the A Shau, wounded in 1971. I do not want to see another man have to go into that Hell Hole!


22 posted on 05/20/2016 6:06:38 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LoneCrusader
We have no national interest requiring a military presence in Vietnam. Some Southeast Asian countries might gain various defense and economic benefits from having the US Navy nearby. That's their tough luck. Our days of empire are over.

China is not even close to being our enemy at this time. Our opponents live further to the West.

23 posted on 05/20/2016 6:07:08 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Jeeves
China is not even close to being our enemy at this time. Our opponents live further to the West.

We are in an economic war with China right now. But I agree Vietnam is nonstarter. Let Nike protect them.

24 posted on 05/20/2016 6:09:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: M Kehoe

THERE ARE NO PERMANENT ALLIES, NO PERMANENT ENEMIES ONLY PERMANENT INTERESTS

Also note, I have the holes in my hide to prove, I was there.

This day is call’d the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say “To-morrow is Saint Crispian.”
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say “These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.”
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words—
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester—
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.

Henry did not require the support of the Congress or news media/ SPIT!


25 posted on 05/20/2016 6:21:22 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: DUMBGRUNT

Bttt.

5.56mm


26 posted on 05/20/2016 6:26:57 AM PDT by M Kehoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: NorthMountain

>> Ditch the communism, guys, and maybe we can consider it <<

Go there and study the situation. You’ll quickly understand that the GVN is no longer truly Communist, no longer the least bit Marxist.

No, the powers that be in Hanoi and Saigon are just plain, old-fashioned dictators who run a system of corrupt crony capitalism, much like that of Putin or Mussolini — with the big difference being that unlike Vladimir or Benito, the VN bigwigs are very friendly to the USA.


27 posted on 05/20/2016 6:28:48 AM PDT by Hawthorn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Jeeves

China not our enemy? You and a lot on this board better wake up.


28 posted on 05/20/2016 6:33:45 AM PDT by Williams (Dear God please save us from the democrats. And the republicans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: central_va

actually, china is a competitor. American and chinese companies have close relations. The largest of Chinese companies is registered on the New York Stock Exchange

A flanking maneuver as a political effort has some merit in insuring the trade lanes remain open


29 posted on 05/20/2016 6:38:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Shadow44

That is their own fault.

I agree. But perhaps it is time to lead them into the light of democracy. Japan did far worse and they are one of our best allies.


30 posted on 05/20/2016 6:40:06 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: LoneCrusader

Vietnam’s founding mythology goes back to the Three Sisters Trung who led the revolt against China in AD 40. There is no love for China to this day.

They also have a habit of romanticizing the French once they ran the French out. They are probably doing the same thing with America right now.

Returning access to Cam Ranh Bay is a very good thing for us, and it complicates China’s attempt at being the hegemon of the South China Sea. It will bolster our friends in the Philippines and Japan.


31 posted on 05/20/2016 6:40:32 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LoneCrusader

If we don’t support Vietnam now, the whole region will fall like dominos!!!! Wait.


32 posted on 05/20/2016 6:43:14 AM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hawthorn
just plain, old-fashioned dictators who run a system of corrupt crony capitalism, much like that of Putin or Mussolini

And we should spill American blood and spend American treasure for them WHY???

the VN bigwigs are very friendly to the USA.

Sure. They think we'll spill American blood and spend American treasure to defend them. They need to clean up their act FIRST. Then we can talk.

33 posted on 05/20/2016 6:44:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: PeteePie

Dwight Eisenhower was the first to make that warning. And Ike knew something about reading a map with the eye of a military officer.


34 posted on 05/20/2016 6:45:02 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: LoneCrusader
Cam Ranh Bay ... where Marines landed
Marines landed at DaNang, not Cam Ranh Bay.
35 posted on 05/20/2016 6:45:53 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bert
We are in a trade war with China now but we refuse to fight back. We have completely open markets, like a slutty whore, and China currently slaps huge tariffs on out exports. So screw China.

In the big scheme of things useful idiots like you will be swept away once the dragon finally reaches it goal of world economic and military hegemony.

While I do not want a war with China something good would come out of it; we will end this "Free Trade" charade with a dangerous enemy.

36 posted on 05/20/2016 6:48:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: NorthMountain

IT has nothing to do with ‘spilling blood for North Vietnam’. It has everything to do with us assuring that China quits its attempt to militarily dominate its neighbors, particularly our friends in the Philippines and Japan and South Korea.


37 posted on 05/20/2016 6:48:10 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Pelham

China is trying to do what the Japs ultimately couldn’t. Create a new Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.


38 posted on 05/20/2016 6:49:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
China is trying to do what the Japs ultimately couldn’t. Create a new Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

With the help of Free Traitors™.

39 posted on 05/20/2016 6:50:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: LoneCrusader

>>Why might Vietnam let US military return?

Because, the U.S.A. is on track for being “fundamentally transformed” into the U.S.S.A?


40 posted on 05/20/2016 6:51:30 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-75 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson