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Inspired by Trump, new Arizona law redefines free speech
CS Monitor ^ | May 17, 2016 | Ben Rosen

Posted on 05/17/2016 1:23:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: yoe
"these men were wearing turbans on there heads" Yup
21 posted on 05/17/2016 1:52:58 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: eyeamok

Excellent idea....


22 posted on 05/17/2016 1:54:17 PM PDT by yoe
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To: knittnmom

I’d say a mandatory 2-year prison stint, for starters.

If blocking traffic results in someone’s death, such as an ambulance or baby that might have been delivered, I say voluntary manslaughter, fines and restitution.

Gee, I have no sympathy for those blocking traffic on purpose.


23 posted on 05/17/2016 1:54:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Good story, and thanks.


24 posted on 05/17/2016 1:55:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: yoe

Good for Alex .


25 posted on 05/17/2016 1:55:47 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Vote Trump 2016~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything's gonna be alright. 👍)
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To: knittnmom

“I felt that my life was in danger”

/floors it

;)


26 posted on 05/17/2016 1:57:20 PM PDT by Salamander (Disco bloodbath boogie fever...)
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To: yoe

AJ was in the USMC? I had no idea.


27 posted on 05/17/2016 1:57:33 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: sockmonkey
Isn't creating a situation with such wanton disregard for the safety of others against the law?

It is... It falls under the rubric of "Gross Criminal Negligence"...

the infowarrior

28 posted on 05/17/2016 1:58:50 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Mr. Mojo
Bravo Gov. Ducey1
The "right" to protest stops when the protest becomes physical; when "protesters" are bused in from other states; if the protest is about/against government then any protestor taking government handouts, food stamps, housing, or unemployment should not be allowed to protest NOR should any protester accept money to protest.....free speech is not a job.
29 posted on 05/17/2016 2:05:52 PM PDT by yoe
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To: knittnmom

“It’s a good start. There should be penalties for blocking traffic. Period.”


I agree.

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30 posted on 05/17/2016 2:08:21 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Syncopated

Ya know if some of those ambulance chasers start having unfortunate accidents...


31 posted on 05/17/2016 2:11:16 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Mr. Mojo
What freedom of speech is not:

Foreign illegal alien invaders from Mexico using mob rule to block the roads to stop legal political gatherings of American citizens.

32 posted on 05/17/2016 2:12:29 PM PDT by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

We don’t need the law if it is understand that people can run over or shoot those obstructing access and have immunity.


33 posted on 05/17/2016 2:14:10 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Syncopated

One definition of a God-ordained right is an activity that costs nothing in its exercise and costs no one else in its exercise. By this definition, blocking traffic isn’t a right, be it speech or anything else.


34 posted on 05/17/2016 2:18:34 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Mr. Mojo
Is blocking access to a political event a political statement in itself?

Sure and flying airplanes into skyscrapers is a political statement too. An act is not lawful or Constitutional simply because it is a political statement.

35 posted on 05/17/2016 2:19:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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Opinion: Democrats, not Republicans, may be on verge of unraveling –MarketWatch
Inspired by Trump, new Arizona law redefines free speech –CSMonitor
Paul Ryan embraces poll showing more Republicans trust Trump than him –Politico
McCain In Deep Trouble in GOP Primary; Trump, Clinton Close in AZ –PPP
Hillary Clinton ‘Super PAC’ to Air First Attack Ads Aimed at Donald Trump –NYT
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36 posted on 05/17/2016 2:19:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Holding up protest signs - legal and protected speech.
Blocking access, harassing, threatening, fighting etc. - not legal, not protected.


37 posted on 05/17/2016 2:33:16 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I approve of this new law.

However, the law is not “inspired by Trump”. It is a reaction to massive denial by leftist agitators of free speech and free assembly rights of people wishing to attend a Trump rally.

The goal is to prevent anything like this from happening again.

Meanwhile, I hope that Arizona prosecutes the Soros-employed professional agitator who spearheaded the original action, for blocking traffic and/or breaking other relevant existing laws.


38 posted on 05/17/2016 2:47:03 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
People have the right to speak, but they don't have the right to be heard. Anyone who shows up where there is a reasonable expectation that I might be there intending to shout at me, block my way, or even just show me a sign, is denying me my civil rights. They should all be arrested, charged, and prosecuted under existing civil rights statutes.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 05/17/2016 2:59:34 PM PDT by ml/nj (av)
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The other law prevents state universities and community colleges from limiting where free speech can be exercised, which directly affects a lawsuit against Paradise Valley Community College in Phoenix. Alliance Defending Freedom, a Christian organization that aims to protects free speech, alleges the college prohibited a student from having an informational table in a "free speech" zone on campus.

Something is not making sense here; If it was a "free speech" zone then the issue is not about limiting where free speech can be exercised but limiting the content of the speech, which is of course wrong. But limiting where some expressions of free speech can occur seems quite reasonable to me. Just because what you say is political does not mean you should be able to say it on a bullhorn in the library. Like blocking traffic, the reason it is not covered by "freedom of speech" is because the method of the speech is causing problems that are independent of the content of the speech. The violation of free speech happens when content is censored, not when the method of speech is limited. Of course if a given method is ok or not ok depending on the content, then its really about the content, which is not ok. For example if it was ok for left-wingers to use a bullhorn in a library but not right-wingers then there is a problem. But not using a bullhorn in a library for any kind of speech is very reasonable, and its even reasonable to make an exception for firemen during an emergency.

40 posted on 05/17/2016 3:17:39 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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