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If Trump Is Nominee.... [my opus]
Self | 5/01/05 | Calpublican

Posted on 05/01/2016 4:50:43 PM PDT by Calpublican

As a 5th generation Republican and Lifelong Conservative the political events of recent years have been frustrating. None are more frustrating than this election cycle.

We prayed and hoped for a real Conservative to counter the leftward pull of Obama. We wanted someone to pull the country to the right so we could possibly be, at least, center America, where we typically like to land in national politics.

We have had several Conservative candidates this cycle, but many who have called themselves "Conservative" have coalesced behind a man who is the farthest thing from Conservative as is imaginable and why? Because of FEAR.

Fear of the other, fear of violence, fear of immigrants. These are valid fears, but when fear turns to hate judgement is clouded. That is what has happened. Instead of standing by principles, "Conservatives" have been drawn to hateful rhetoric. Even after Trump has disavowed his own rhetoric to the NYT& others, the seed has been planted. If one wonders how despots rise to power, this is how. Exactly.

Trump's positions are all Liberal/Leftwing, some experts speculate Neo- Proto- or Ur-Fascist as well . He did not magically become Conservative and he has given ample evidence of this---repeatedly. But the fearful will not or cannot hear it.

If Trump is the nominee which Liberal will I choose? I choose Hillary and will, for the first time in my life, vote for a Democrat for president. Why? Because if Trump wins, pretending to be Conservative, he will destroy Conservatism for 20 yrs. He is not pulling down-ticket Conservatives so his administration would be Liberal to the max.

It is a difficult choice but I am absolutely convinced it is the correct choice. If I have to vote Liberal, I vote strategically Liberal.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: calpublican; clinton; cruzersforhillary; election; fascism; hillary; kamalaharris; kissthering; nominee; oprah; opus; sanders; trump; vanity; wellbye; wellbyethen; worstopusever; zot
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To: jch10

No idea what you are talking about. Wrong poster?


241 posted on 05/01/2016 7:07:30 PM PDT by Williams (Dear God please save us from the democrats. And the republicans.)
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To: Calpublican

Say hello to Cincinatus’ Wife for us.


242 posted on 05/01/2016 7:07:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Beernoser

Excellent post.


243 posted on 05/01/2016 7:12:28 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: Gator113

I like the idea of knotty pine in the kitchen! In my area there are a lot of beautiful beetle-kill pine cabinets, walls and ceilings.

Related to the other subject:

A story about government and leader-dependence. People get too tied up in the Presidency. I had a cousin who worked in the bowels of the Labor Dept in DC. He was a liberal Dem of course. When Reagan was elected I asked him what he thought as he had been trashing R throughout the campaign. He laughed. “Presidents come and go, we are always here. And we do 90% of what really gets done.”


244 posted on 05/01/2016 7:12:40 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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To: Calpublican

Did a biddy step on your head?


245 posted on 05/01/2016 7:13:40 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: austinaero

“Please be honest. Let’s start with honesty. Trump has done much more good in his lifetime than supporting Dem and Rep shysters. You write as if that’s the ONLY thing Trump has done.

Come on.”

To many long time Republicans it is impossible to believe that the party would nominate someone who gave money to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Hillary Clinton.

It is impossible to believe that the party would nominate someone who less than three years ago gave $ 25,000 to Terry McAuliffe who won the governor’s race in Virginia 47 - 45 % with 6 % voting libertarian. That election we needed every hand on deck, and Trump was supporting the Democrat. Now he just made 200,000 felons voters. Wouldn’t it be ironic if those felon votes kept the state from Trump.

So yes, for people who have volunteered for the party for 40 years, supporting candidates they loved, liked, and even disliked, it is going to be hard to accept that the party is nominating someone who has been working against them so many times.

Something Trump is proud of is bringing many non-voters into the process. Those supporters probably don’t sympathize with the long time Republican very much. The first reaction is probably just to hurl more insults. After all, it seems to work for Trump. At this point I don’t think the insults are helping him any because now that the primaries are decided, it’s up to Trump to unify the party.


246 posted on 05/01/2016 7:14:11 PM PDT by Beernoser
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To: sailor76

“We will win without you, and rest assured we will WIN.”

That I can tell you.


247 posted on 05/01/2016 7:22:01 PM PDT by Beernoser
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To: Calpublican

Brevity is the soul of opus.


248 posted on 05/01/2016 7:23:29 PM PDT by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: Beernoser; mkjessup; onyx; stephenjohnbanker; SaveFerris; Georgia Girl 2
Any potential voter who'd genuinely feel better served by the Butcheress of Benghazi in the long run is entirely welcome to cast their vote for her, with my blessings; or else sit out the election altogether and sulk, if that's the way their conscience happens to roll.

They just can't blackmail the rest of us into giving two wet sneezes either way, is all.


249 posted on 05/01/2016 7:30:39 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16)
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To: Jane Long

Which one?


250 posted on 05/01/2016 7:31:01 PM PDT by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: Calpublican

With all due respect, somewhere there is a pooch feeling very screwed.


251 posted on 05/01/2016 7:35:28 PM PDT by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: Calpublican

Last time I checked, Trump was not being investigated for numerous national security violations. If you are an American that supports the rule of law, you cannot vote for Hillary.


252 posted on 05/01/2016 7:38:22 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: bray

LOLOL!!!

The first one. That one was my personal fave.


253 posted on 05/01/2016 7:46:51 PM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Calpublican
Trump's positions are all Liberal/Leftwing

No man show go out showing such stupidity... So I fixed it for you.

254 posted on 05/01/2016 7:47:35 PM PDT by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: The Continental Op
having found his inner lefty

LOL! Too many years exposure to Governor Moonbeam, no doubt...

255 posted on 05/01/2016 7:52:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (To the GOPee: "Giving the Democrats the Supreme Court means you ARE the Democrats.")
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To: Calpublican

You are the hater, not Trump supporters. I feel sorry for you. Voting for Hitlerly is cutting off your nose to spite your face. That takes a lot of hate.

You don’t even have a clue about what the election is about as far as conservativism goes. It is about globalism and the loss of National sovereignty. The social and economic ideology of globalism is far from conservative.


256 posted on 05/01/2016 7:53:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Calpublican
Trump's positions are all Liberal/Leftwing
.............................................

You are a liar and probably have some deep, twisted desire to vote for a radical liberal. Seek help.

257 posted on 05/01/2016 7:53:29 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Calpublican
“My poison is Hillary.”

You remind me of Alexander Hamilton who said: “If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”

That is soooo old school.

Today the smart conservatives - the ones in New York City - advise us that when Democrats run a liberal for president, Republicans need to run a candidate that is even more liberal.

What could go wrong with that?

258 posted on 05/01/2016 7:53:47 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Calpublican

Written by a person not unlike Jeb or George Bush claiming they are consrtvatives.

Why write an opus, no one cares why you’re going, just go.


259 posted on 05/01/2016 7:54:12 PM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: Beernoser
They never thought they’d have to vote for someone as vulgar as Trump...


260 posted on 05/01/2016 7:54:49 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (May God Bless America)
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