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First Leave the UN.

Then NATO.

1 posted on 04/28/2016 6:39:15 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

DeGaulle of him...


2 posted on 04/28/2016 6:39:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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Your response is perfect


3 posted on 04/28/2016 6:39:59 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (GOPe/MSM - "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you)
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Hi, Europe, I want you all to pay more, so I’m going to say I’m leaving NATO. But I don’t really mean it.

Now pay up or I’m out of here!


4 posted on 04/28/2016 6:40:57 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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If Europe is going to allow themselves to be invaded by Islamic terrorists, then we are fools to be over there without a whip hand. And if they don’t agree to it we should get out and let their suicide complete itself, and then negotiate - or destroy - the resulting Caliphate.

But it’s time to call a spade a spade. Germany and the UK are all but gone already.


5 posted on 04/28/2016 6:44:18 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Is Turkey still in NATO?

It is?

Then why are we?


6 posted on 04/28/2016 6:46:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Not what Trump said...."Fair Share"

On Trade...Free Trade....No...."Fair Trade" yes

9 posted on 04/28/2016 6:50:01 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield (D-MT) discovered the power of the bipartisan pro-NATO lobby in the 1970s when he merely sought to reduce the number of U.S. troops stationed in Europe.
- - - - - - -
Huumm? 1970s Nixon, Ford, Carter were the Presidents.

Ted, remind me again how this lobbying thing works. Oh yes! They give you money to run for office and expect you to do things for them when you get there. Well, the only people who have given Donald J. Trump money are a million or so of us little folk, and this is what we want him to do! Maybe it will be different this time. :-)


10 posted on 04/28/2016 6:50:54 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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NATO’s mission ended 25 years ago.

Now its just a bodyguard for the ongoing progressive-left social-engineering and destruction of Europe.


13 posted on 04/28/2016 6:54:59 PM PDT by PGR88
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NATO should have been disbanded the day after the CCCP collapsed.


14 posted on 04/28/2016 6:58:07 PM PDT by ganeemead
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I remember Rush saying long ago that the US paid for the defenses of the European nations that they spent all their time moving left. Let Germany, etal pay for their own defense against Russia.


15 posted on 04/28/2016 6:59:25 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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Excellent commentary. I agree 100% with Cato Institute. Probably the most severe example of Europe’s inability is when they could not or would not resolve Bosnia/Serbia on their own and that directly impacted their vital national interest in their own backyard.They hounded the US which had no national security interest in the issue to come over there and resolve it for them with our air power and diplomacy.


16 posted on 04/28/2016 7:10:03 PM PDT by chuckee
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I came to the conclusion, living in the UK some years ago, that we should leave NATO. The socialists I was around did nothing but bitch and moan about the US the entire time I was there. Including the blatant anti-American bias from the BBC.
I’m seriously beyond giving a $hit about our ‘perceived allies’. The only people who seemed to care were those who remembered WW2. Even that was done mockingly of ‘our boys’ and how ‘brash and uncouth’ they were. Also that our soldiers got better rations than theirs, blah, blah. NOT OUR FAULT! Enough.


17 posted on 04/28/2016 7:17:14 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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Europe committed suicide, American being in NATO can’t help them.


18 posted on 04/28/2016 7:20:42 PM PDT by niki
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Exactly my thought.


19 posted on 04/28/2016 7:23:36 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner: with Cloward Piven for Dessert)
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The Russians have a point - the Soviet Union no longer exists and the Warsaw Pact is history.

NATO is an organization in search of a mission. The ideology of blocs was rendered obsolete with the end of the Cold War.

If Europe has no interest in confronting Russia, its none of our business to tell it what its interests are.

By the same measure, Europe has no right to demand we do for it what it should be capable of doing for itself.


20 posted on 04/28/2016 7:32:58 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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Sometimes hypotheticals can start you thinking: what if all of Europe elected socialists; would we still defend them in NATO? Neocon Answer: yes.

Conclusion: We are not there to promote freedom.


21 posted on 04/28/2016 7:34:58 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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I don’t believe it is in our best interest to see Europe fall to anyone.

Remaining in NATO with tweaks is recommended.

Let them pay more for the defense we provide.

Re-evaluate what nations are in it. If Turkey wants to play hard-line, let it go.

We should not become isolationist.

We do need to have a working relationship with Europe to discourage adventurism there.

We need to get our military up to speed and project around the globe.

We need to have our NAVY on every high sea, and our carriers and subs on station.


22 posted on 04/28/2016 7:38:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ted Cruz, "But it's what plants need!")
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First Leave the UN.

Then Send the UN to some Third World Hellhole.

Then burn down the UN building and purify the land.

Then Get Out Of NATO.


24 posted on 04/28/2016 8:47:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (Under Cruz every home will have a basketball ring, football net and a hockey glove- Willie Robertson)
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The real problem is Europe’s unnatural and unhealthy continued security dependence on the United States. <<<

Welfare Mentality.

Users. Why spend your own buck if you can scam someone else’s.


25 posted on 04/28/2016 9:15:53 PM PDT by PrairieLady2 (Choose Cruz...and looze.)
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NATO left us.


26 posted on 04/28/2016 9:35:22 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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