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Which woman is living 'sustainably'?
wnd.com ^ | 4/23/2016 | Patrice Lewis

Posted on 04/23/2016 6:39:30 AM PDT by rktman

I got a phone call from my old friend “Jane” this week. Jane and I went to high school together. We’ve kept in touch over the years as our lives took radically different directions. She became a city mouse: got married, moved to Seattle and became very involved in the sustainable movement. I became a country mouse: got married, moved to a small farm in Idaho and helped start a woodcraft business. Jane’s burning ambition is to get me to live as sustainable a life as she does. She can’t understand why I don’t embrace her vastly superior green lifestyle.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: arrogance; ecojustus; greenies
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To: rktman

A good sticky agent (surfactant) will dry in 15 minutes or less LI 400 is a good one. RoundUp ProMax - expensive (about $80 for 1.67 gal), but includes a very good sticker agent (dries in 30 minutes) advertised: 40% coverage, 100% dead. Only need 1.3 oz gal per mix.

Surfactants are useful for two reasons - fast drying and stops plant respiration (sort of seals it off).

Label: http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/msds/Roundup%20ProMAX%20Specimen%20Label.pdf

BTW from the label:
Carcinogenicity Tests
The results from extensive, chronic toxicology tests resulted in a U.S. EPA cancer classification of glyphosate as a “Category E,” or “evidence of non-carcinogenicity for humans,” the most favorable rating granted. This rating is based on a thorough review of results from extensive toxicological testing required by EPA.


21 posted on 04/23/2016 7:46:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rktman

If sustainable living means living a lifestyle my grandparents did 100 years ago ...sorry not for me. I also find it ironic that burning wood was essential to their sustainable lifestyle. Wood burning stoves not only belch green house gas, they also spew soot and carcinogens. Modern natural gas appliances are more efficient and pollute less.


22 posted on 04/23/2016 7:48:04 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: taterjay

LOL! So bad that even bugs won’t live there?


23 posted on 04/23/2016 7:51:06 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Just drivin’ around for the heck of it with no purpose could get you arrested for violating some sort of decree. Well, maybe not in south central Luzziane. Say, you got any crawdads you don’t need? They’re kinda scarce here in NV.


24 posted on 04/23/2016 7:54:16 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: 9YearLurker

That city mouse spends more time following neurotic trends than pursuing a long term survival strategy. Her supply chain is non-existant and at the first earthquake she will be in a public shelter begging for handouts.


25 posted on 04/23/2016 7:57:54 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Lose with Cruz.)
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To: Fhios
Years ago, I had a friend who built a new house and spent $50,000 to power the entire house on solar panel energy. Unfortunately, he never figured that, after only 13 years in the Arizona sun, he would have to replace almost all of the solar panels and much of the piping on the roof because of exposure and sun damage. So instead of saving money, he had to spend $23,000 to replace everything that was deteriorated.

So ROI isn't what it first appears. It will take more than 30 years and probably unending into the future, to ever get money back on your sister's "sustainable" solar system. You might be able to reasonably recover your original investment in a solar water heater system because it's much cheaper but systems for the entire house are very expensive and not a cure-all for "free" electricity.

At $150 month average on my electric bill this last year, I could go 14 years paying for electricity with the $25,000 she is spending on a solar system. Doesn't make economic sense to me but then I'm not a liberal.

26 posted on 04/23/2016 7:58:46 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: PIF

No doubt there’s a caveat about it being ‘known in california to cause cancer’. I’ve seen that marked on friggin’ garden hoses recently. In any case, I need to get on it since the sage is poppin’ like crazy and various other plants I don’t want.


27 posted on 04/23/2016 7:59:43 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: mrs. a; rktman

You two married or something? Mr. asshat and mrs. a...

You sound like the perfect couple. :-)


28 posted on 04/23/2016 7:59:45 AM PDT by disndat
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To: disndat

LOL! WHAT? You can call me an asshat all you want............


29 posted on 04/23/2016 8:02:09 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman
"Say, you got any crawdads you don’t need?"

The Breaux Bridge Crawfish Festival is in two weeks, lol. This weekend, all the action is in Lafayette:

http://festivalinternational.org/

30 posted on 04/23/2016 8:03:00 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: rktman

A cute morality tale, but not really believable. There was zero reason for Patrice not to mention the things she did that corresponded to her clueless “friend’s” overpriced “sustainable” indulgence-buying. She could very easily make the points that she had us develop through inference.


31 posted on 04/23/2016 8:06:08 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: disndat; rktman

“You two married or something? Mr. asshat and mrs. a...”

That would be a huge surprise to mr. a.


32 posted on 04/23/2016 8:06:42 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: rktman; mrs. a

I am sure mrs. a was referring to the woman in the article. But what she said, especially the “superior wisdom” thing, reminded me of MY wife. :-)


33 posted on 04/23/2016 8:08:13 AM PDT by disndat
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To: x_plus_one

Absolutely true!


34 posted on 04/23/2016 8:09:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: disndat; rktman

Yes, I was indeed referring to the “Jane” in the article as the asshat.

I have a sister like that - she subscribes to “Real Simple” magazine but she won’t eat the eggs from our neighbor’s hens because...well, you know where those eggs COME OUT OF, don’t you? As opposed to the ones that she eats from the grocery store, which the angels deliver every morning in little silken bags.


35 posted on 04/23/2016 8:14:36 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: taterjay
Years ago, some idiot columnist in the New York Times, wrote that our society should stop using air conditioners to "save the planet".

He talked about how people could just open their windows like folks used to do and allow breezes in to cool things off. Use fans to circulate the air. No mention of how that would work in towns and cities with buildings where the windows don't open, but don't "sweat" (pun intended) the small stuff, right?

He bragged that he doesn't have an air conditioner in his house and does just fine. Come to find out later in the column that this guy lives in Connecticut, where the climate in the summer is very pleasant, I am sure.

He obviously has never lived in the deserts of Arizona where I lived for 25 years. Or in the insufferable heat and humidity of Florida, where I live now. Or in Houston, Texas, where an article in the Wall Street Journal years ago explained that the city would never have grown into a major metropolitan city had it not been for the invention of refrigeration or air conditioning. Why? Because it was so unbearable just to exist there, let alone live comfortably. Or many of the other places in this country in the south and areas that are hot and humid in the summer, where air conditioning is not a luxury anymore. It is a necessity to live and thrive in those locales.

36 posted on 04/23/2016 8:18:11 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Nifster

I think they want us in cities because we would be easier to control. Just what I think.


37 posted on 04/23/2016 8:21:13 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Agreed.


38 posted on 04/23/2016 8:22:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HotHunt

Ask any honest realtor if solar panels on your roof makes a house easier to sell or increases the selling price.


39 posted on 04/23/2016 8:24:43 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Joe 6-pack

Dude, you’re killin’ me. LOL! We went to a crawfish boil in Yerrington NV a couple of years ago to help raise money for some ladies softball assoc. They had the crawdads flown in live the morning of the event (I think 1,000 lbs) and I gotta say I was impressed at the job they did boilin’ ‘em up. Pretty darn good. Along with taters and corn. Their red beans were no match for Mrs. rktman’s so we didn’t do much of that. Of course we ended up teaching a lot of folks how to pinch and suck. We still outdid them about 10 to 1.


40 posted on 04/23/2016 8:25:35 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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