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Trump takes back claim he could eliminate national debt
The Hill ^ | 04/22/2016 | Harper Neidig

Posted on 04/22/2016 6:33:08 PM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: Beernoser
He was just saying what sounded good.

Right there, in a nutshell is the whole Trump campaign strategy. Problem is, he's limited to 3 syllable words.

121 posted on 04/22/2016 9:17:14 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: donna
It’s nice to have a politician who doesn’t use a canned speech and thus makes mistakes or dramatic statements.

Yes indeed, it's like the prize in a box of CrackerJack...you never know what you'll get.

122 posted on 04/22/2016 9:22:42 PM PDT by Oliver Boliver Butt
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To: tacticalogic

Unless they have repealed the law of supply & demand, the wholesale price of imported goods will drop until people can afford them with the tariffs applied.

So it won’t cause retail price increases, and it will actually be a hit to the foreign producers’ pockets and not American consumers. Either that, or they go out of business and American companies have to make our stuff again.


123 posted on 04/22/2016 9:25:56 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: huckfillary; central_va

Smoot-Hawley tariff rates were 60%, not 20%. China has 100% tariffs on some American imports. We currently have a 266% tariff on Chinese steel. Do you think these are responsible for the current Recession ?

There are also many economists that do not consider Smoot-Hawley to blame for the Depression.

[Alfred E. Eckes argues that Smoot-Hawley had little effect on the severity of the Great Depression,[6] as does Douglas A. Irwin in The Review of Economics and Statistics, “Smoot-Hawley ... probably did not contribute significantly to the economic downturn.”.[7]] — Wikipedia entry on Smoot-Hawley

This has just become a scape-goat pushed forward by misguided free-traders like you. So-called “free trade”, where we remove tariffs and duties while our trading partners slap our goods with high duties and VATs has resulted in entire industries being lost.

We have been in a trade cold war for 40+ years and our policy of unilateral disarmament has been a dismal failure. We buy cheaply made imported junk using borrowed money handed out as welfare to jobless Americans that used to be the most productive manufacturing workforce in the world.

If it were me, I’d put whatever tariff it took on imported TVs until America had a TV industry again. Same with steel and aluminum. Same with electronics components. Same with textiles. Same with computer chips. I consider all of these to be issues of national security and products we CANNOT be dependent on outside producers for.


124 posted on 04/22/2016 9:54:19 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: ryan71
Yes , of course he will take it back, in fact, he has already taken it back privately to the New York Times. He is already telling the establishment that he will take a lot of his rhetoric back and they need not worry about Donald Trump.

Donald Trump: the instant take back candidate, just add office.


125 posted on 04/22/2016 10:26:19 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: bubman
The Great Depression was started by a Businessman come politician who imposed massive tariffs

That is Milton Friedman's opinion Not everyone agrees that Smoot was the reason, after all the Country managed practically on import duties alone.

126 posted on 04/22/2016 11:14:56 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: GIdget2004

8 years is simply too short of a time to pay that much money back.


127 posted on 04/23/2016 4:21:35 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: tacticalogic
Assuming we call all afford to keep buying the same stuff when the price goes up 20%. Don't see that happening.

Not everything you consume is imported. Tariffs are voluntary. Prices would come down as more domestic sources come on line. More tariffs less income taxes are what we need.

128 posted on 04/23/2016 4:27:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: lepton
even disregarding the side effects and drops in realizing taxes?

What drop?

129 posted on 04/23/2016 4:28:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004

Amazing.... I have been told numerous times by Trump supporters Trump has never walked back or clarified his statements because the media always misrepresented what he says....

Granted, I approve of his idea, but it would be nice if he just simply told the truth on the matter instead of making outrageous claims....


130 posted on 04/23/2016 4:29:34 AM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone.)
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To: SPRINK
do you think other nations would just do nothing?

They can't really do anymore than they are doing already. Every nation on earth is charging us a tariffs on our exports. How economically naive are you?

Do you think gm or ford would keep their prices the same? Nope their prices would go up 20% the next day...

They could but they won't because their is still domestic and production and competition. Did you forget about that?

You either start protectionism now our gird for Civil War. Your pick.

131 posted on 04/23/2016 4:33:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bubman
The Great Depression was started by a Businessman come politician who imposed massive tariffs back in the early 30's named Herbert Hoover. Heard of him?

Read contemporary accounts and histories of the Great Depression written by the people that actually lived through it and they tell us what really caused the GD and it wasn't an obscure trade act that affected just 4% of the economy. SmootHawley is a contemporaneity rewrite of history to fit the Free Traitor™ religious dogma.

Learn more here: Protectionism Didn't Cause the Great Depression

132 posted on 04/23/2016 4:40:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004

There is in reality little that he (or Cruz) wouldn’t capitulate on to re: the GOPe/Dem/industrial complex once in office. And the 8-year payoff would have been excessive.

But Trump and Cruz are by far still the two best options we have.


133 posted on 04/23/2016 4:43:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: bubman

The economic Boom Bust cycles of which the Great Depression was one were caused by the Central Bank. Which is why Jackson fought them for most of his Presidency to eliminate. We had a stable prosperous economy for a long time after that until the PRIVATE Federal reserve was created (Central bank 2). Look at what laws were put in place to prevent another occurrence of the great depression such as Glass Seagall Act that Clinton repealed leading to the bust we had back then.


134 posted on 04/23/2016 4:49:24 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

The flaw in your argument is the assumption the pie does not grow. Some of the growth will be collecting the money owed for the protection we have done with our allies, More from fair trade, more from increased manufacturing, etc. The Pie will not stay the same size...


135 posted on 04/23/2016 4:52:56 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Sounds like he meant, in eight years he could put the US back into a position to get it paid off sometime before infinity.

Yep - matters not to his detractors - they need every manufactured bit they can come up with.

136 posted on 04/23/2016 4:54:58 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ryan71
He’ll take back building the wall too, in time.

You can bet the house on that.

King Trumpy thinks 19 Trillion of National Debt is like your 30 year mortgage.

137 posted on 04/23/2016 4:57:01 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: raybbr

One way, Make it worthwhile to buy US Treasuries again. Would you move money to invest in US Obligations if the country looked to be stable and the obligations are paying 2 percent over base ROI for low risk? You bet your ass I would.


138 posted on 04/23/2016 5:07:16 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: GIdget2004

Trump is a runaway train on promises. I can promise you.


139 posted on 04/23/2016 5:18:19 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Calling Obama a POS is a major insult to S.)
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To: SPRINK

A turn around manager does not harm himself by firing the entire staff of a poor performing business unless he has a replacement staff ready to take over. That’s not possible with the US govt when Trump first assumes the executive power. What likely will happen is Trump will replace key positions with his own people who will be tasked with fixing their organizations.

Another factor people seem to forget is in DC its about getting others to do what you want, there are many tools for that. Example, what do the democrats have on Roberts to make him side with them on Constitution killing rulings? Trump will have access to that information aka the leverage they use. So, yes he will be able to deal, from a position of strength.


140 posted on 04/23/2016 5:20:12 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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