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What Trump People Don't Get
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2013 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 04/21/2016 6:47:54 PM PDT by Kaslin

Trump people kill me.

They've been whining for weeks about how the Republican Party primary system works.

They say it's rigged because their hero is pulling in the most votes and the most delegates but still might not win the nomination.

They say it's all very simple: Trump's getting the most votes and therefore it's only fair that the person with the most votes from the people should win the nomination.

As I tweeted earlier this week, if that's the way Trump's followers think, then they should all be supporters of Al Gore.

In the 2000 election Gore got 540,000 more votes than George W. Bush, but Bush ended up in the White House because he accumulated the most Electoral College votes.

The Founding Founders & Framers knew what they were doing when they set up the Electoral College to indirectly choose the president.

They didn't want a popular vote and they didn't want Congress to pick the chief executive.

And they sure didn't want a candidate for president to be able to just campaign in three or four big states and rack up huge vote totals and win that way.

The Founders deliberately set it up so each state got its electoral votes in proportion to its representatives and senators.

They wanted every part of the country to be part of the process of choosing a president, not just one heavily populated region or one strong faction of nut balls or extremists. (Not that Trump people are nutballs or extremists.)

It's the same representative principle at work in the Republican Party's primary system.

The GOP doesn't want some guy to be able to win the nomination by flying a 757 into a handful of big states like California, New York, Texas, Illinois, Ohio and Florida, holding campaign events for 20,000 people at the airport and then flying home to Upper Upper Manhattan.

They want a nominee who gets on the ground, walks the neighborhoods, shakes hands and does the hard retail work at the grass roots.

That's what Ted Cruz has been doing to win his delegates while Trump has been doing TV interviews and zooming back and forth over Flyover Country.

Trump people might not like the primary process because their hero is not winning, or think there is cheating and rigging going on.

But they have to understand there is a process and it's not about vote counts, it's about the delegate count. It's not that tough to get.

Meanwhile, what really concerns me lately is how Trump is wrecking his ability to unify the GOP around his candidacy in the fall if he does win the nomination.

He spends parts of every speech and press conference announcing that he hopes that his supporters don't make trouble if he doesn't win. He hopes they don't riot in the streets.

I'm getting tired of his veiled threats, because that is what they really are.

It's time for Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, to stand up at a press conference and tell Trump to cut it out.

Maybe threats and intimidation are part of the Donald's winning strategy in business. But it's not how it's supposed to work when you're trying to win the presidential nomination of the Republican Party.


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: 2016denyvoters; 2016electionfraud; 2016voterfraud; clownhall; cruz; cruzlimposting; michaelreagan; moosebitsister; tds; trump; usualsuspects
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To: octex

The ‘establishment’ has become both a catch phrase and a dirty word here among the trumpers.

They don’t even know what they mean by it anymore.

It is some nebulous force arising out of the atmosphere with the soul purpose of denying Donald Trump his rightful place.

Donald needs to do a couple of things ... now.

He needs to duck tape his mouth for a few days and he needs to put together an organization that can work for votes as Ted Cruz is doing.


101 posted on 04/21/2016 11:48:27 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Williams
When you win delegates in the primary they should actually be your delegates.

Primaries don't determine delegates. They determine the binding of those delegates for the initial ballot.


What’s happening is the establishment is selecting Cruz people to fill those slots.

No, the establishment is selecting Ryan or Kasich people to fill those slots. Cruz is fighting the establishment to get Cruz-supporting delegates instead. If the establishment was seating Cruz delegates, then Cruz wouldn't need to have any of his people fighting at these state conventions.

Think, man.

102 posted on 04/22/2016 12:06:04 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Sec. 4)
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To: gg188
WHY do FR Cruzers support increased immigration, open Southern border, North American Union, TPA, TPP

They don't. Those are all lies repeated ad nauseum by Cruz bashers.

Take TPA and TPP for example. Cruz voted against both. Yet the lie keeps getting repeated that he voted against cloture and voted in favor of final passage. So your question is bogus. It is based upon a premise that is patently false.

103 posted on 04/22/2016 12:11:40 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Sec. 4)
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To: Kaslin

What aa bellyacher. A disgrace to his name!


104 posted on 04/22/2016 12:51:42 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: JBW1949

Yup and we all know who’s on first!


105 posted on 04/22/2016 12:52:31 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: gg188

Both. Add in the thought that some of these people must be paid to cause havoc.


106 posted on 04/22/2016 1:06:59 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: gogeo

Much improved!


107 posted on 04/22/2016 3:07:32 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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To: altura; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; SaveFerris; ...
Calling in the zombies.
Good idea. All the previous trumpers have posted nonsense.
Maybe one of the ‘squad’ can come up with something better.


It's called a *PING* list you dolt. You've been around here long enough to know that.

The fact is, I am honored to have many of my fellow FReepers wishing to follow my various posts, and I have absolute respect for them all, unlike you.

Speaking of 'you', you should also have realized by now that the only 'zombies' these days are the dead and deluded Cruz cultists, wandering around FR, muttering about their idol and how one day he will arise from the political dead, and assume his rightful place as the Grand Omnipotent Dominionist King that his bigamist daddy said he as 'anointed' to be, the wealth of the wicked shall be transferred to the pockets of the righteous, the blind will walk, and the crippled shall see.

Hail Emperor and all-conquering delegate swiper Saint Ted!
108 posted on 04/22/2016 4:22:44 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you stand with Cruz, you stand with the GOPe, Jeb, Mitt, iSnarly, Reince & Karl. What's that say?)
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To: Kaslin
Did the Founding Fathers figure on an electoral college that ended up under the control of the entrenched regimes?

I hope Michael Reagan doesn't go all Levin too...

109 posted on 04/22/2016 4:27:54 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: mkjessup
What Trump People Don't Get

Well, there's that whole weird, idolatrous, fetishistic urge to liken our chosen candidate to a living, incarnate Moses, for one thing. We definitely don't get that, thank goodness! ;)

110 posted on 04/22/2016 4:29:33 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("#NeverTrump" = "#AlwaysHillary.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; Grampa Dave; SaveFerris; ...
After just a fraction of the insane CruzMentia(c) that I've witnessed in the last 15 minutes, I'm going out for coffee and breakfast, gonna have me some grits, sunny side eggs up, and SCRAPPLE!!

Keep up the fine work, fellow members of the FR Pro-Trump Posse!!! We're heading for TRUMP Country!

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Back a little later! :)

(will somebody feed mah dog until I get back? ;) lol
111 posted on 04/22/2016 4:45:54 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you stand with Cruz, you stand with the GOPe, Jeb, Mitt, iSnarly, Reince & Karl. What's that say?)
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To: AndyJackson

“we are deranged. We are beyond reason.”

Admitting you have a problem is the first step...

“We are legion. Deal with it.”

Oh, I am.

We’ll see if the country has to “deal with” a Trump presidency. I fear he’s a force of chaos, and not at all what he’s been portraying himself to be during his campaign.

I’ve just been looking at this article:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/21/trump-oh-you-bet-i-support-raising-taxes-on-the-rich-n2152154

It is not encouraging.


112 posted on 04/22/2016 4:51:45 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Cruz or Trump '16! JUST NOT A DEM!!!)
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To: Parley Baer
Take Pennsylvania. The voters only get to choose 17 of 71 delegates.

Nonsense. Voters in PA vote for three delegates from their district and have a say in the 17 decided by the statewide results.

It's not a winner-take-all system, but neither are many other states. Each congressional district has its say.

113 posted on 04/22/2016 4:57:27 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: PreciousLiberty

Its very encouraging:

Remove the Goldman Sachs spin and taking out of context and you get:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

Which shows you his “tax the rich” is nothing more than removing the special interests tax loopholes the super rich created in the tax code to not pay the same taxes as you and me on their “income.”

“Income” is a term of art created by special interests lobbyists to exclude most of the wealth generation of the super rich. Which is why one of Cruz’s largest backers owes hundreds of millions in taxes. he knows if Cruz gets in he avoids paying the taxes.


114 posted on 04/22/2016 5:01:54 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: mkjessup; altura; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; ...

The best response to some of these supporters of Ted sCruz is the Iran Nuke Deal that he claims he opposes. The fact is the Corker Bill was created by the republican leadership, Corker is a republican, Ted sCruz cosponsored the bill and voted FOR the Corker bill.

After that just ignore their posts. Most work for the Cruz campaign or the GOPe. We’ve had this every election, paid trolls show up and once the election is over they’re gone.

One election we had a troll who was posti g 24/7, so it had to be several people in an office posting in shifts. Some of course are democrats


115 posted on 04/22/2016 5:06:42 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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To: Hoodat

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-ryan-urge-senate-to-pass-fast-track/article/2563423

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/11/yes-unfortunately-ted-cruz-did-support-trans-pacific-trade-deal-tpa-with-video/

and His Amnesty positions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuGzdyt0xOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI

Increasing Foreign workers 500 percent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHlGlNwsQb0

Here is why Cruz does the above and is so dangerous for America:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXcYCwaBKnQ&app=desktop


116 posted on 04/22/2016 5:14:13 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: stockpirate

I think we have the shift workers posting, again, this election. Fast and furiously.


117 posted on 04/22/2016 5:48:17 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Kaslin

Rice Bowl Threat Alert.


118 posted on 04/22/2016 5:57:09 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: COBOL2Java
Exactly! Don't you people realize that only the elites, the well-placed, well-educated, chosen ones among us have the wherewithal to choose our leaders? This nation has grown too big to leave decisions like this to the great unwashed uneducated in flyover country! Now get back to your jobs and let your Republican Party leaders manage this enormous undertaking!"
119 posted on 04/22/2016 5:58:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When The Ballot No Longer Counts, The Ammo Box Does! Whingat's In Your Ammo Box?(US Conservative)!)
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To: Grampa Dave; gogeo
gogeo made a change which did that quote one better here
120 posted on 04/22/2016 6:02:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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