Wonder why his hooter bends to the left?
Posted on 04/12/2016 7:46:10 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
Stephen Fry has told sex abuse victims to "grow up" because self-pity is the “ugliest emotion in humanity”, prompting a social media outcry following a US chat interview. The actor, 58, was speaking to chat show host Dave Rubin about the controversial Cecil Rhodes statue at Oriel college, Oxford, which campaigners want removed. And he said some people are becoming too sensitive and criticised those who avoid “trigger words” for fear of controversy.
The former QI presented said: “There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. “They’re terrible things and they have to be thought about, clearly, but if you say you can’t watch this play, you can’t watch Titus Andronicus, or you can’t read it in an English class, or you can’t watch Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because uncle touched you in a nasty place, well I’m sorry. “It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place – you get some of my sympathy – but your self pity gets none of my sympathy.” He added: “Self pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one’s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself. The irony is we’ll feel sorry for you, if you stop feeling sorry for yourself. Just grow up.”
Following the comments, Fry, who is the president of mental health charity MIND was branded “hypocritical” and “dangerous” by angry social media users.
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Thanks. I’m very sorry about your father. I was 48 when my father died, but it still hurt a lot!
There might be victims of rape or torture who are genuinely incapable of getting any distance from the events. Those people need to be in therapy, rather than reading novels or viewing movies in college classes.
He is also a militant atheist.
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Depending on how young the victim is, I’ve thought it might have something to do with the psychological imprinting, of the first sexual experience being a gay one, effecting the child for the rest of their life.
Wonder why his hooter bends to the left?
It's the No.1 "gay-maker". And it's repulsive for odious queen Fry to tell victims "STFU". It shows that he probably went through it as a child, hardening his heart along the way, and he probably doesn't mind some fresh blood in the pool.
Fry was sexually assaulted as a child by another male pupil while at boarding school.
The comic treated guests to a graphic story about Gore Vidal’s stay at a top London hotel where he rang a gay escort agency to arrange a boy for an energetic afternoon session.
Fry once wrote a play which details a homosexual affair between a teacher and his 13-year-old pupil
I believe there is more social justice / political correctness-based censorship in the UK universities than there is even over here. He seems to be criticizing the censorship, so you would be agreeing with him.
I have on numerous occasions been completely blown away by certain peoples behavior, only to later learn that because of some “incident” that may or may not have happened in the past, these people had never once been disciplined in their entire lives.
I do think sexual abuse of children is horrible, but I do not believe it gives a child a “get out of life free card”. Many parents and “experts” disagree with me it seems.
Agreed. And no need to be sorry. Good father for 15 years is a lot better than none or bad :)
The age we are when they go doesn’t matter. It hurts!
I think his statement was more about teachers at university having to censor many great works of literature because the works might contain “triggers” rather than lack of real sympathy for victims.
As someone who was raped at 16 I agree with Mr. Fry.
At some point you have to move on or else it dominates your life and you won’t have a life. I know too many people who wear ‘survivor’ status like it’s some sort of medal or something.
Something that happened to me does not define me and if it did I’d hope that someone would come along and tell me to grow up and move on.
Universities are finding it difficult to teach literature because so many students claim they have been so traumatized by experiences of rape, abuse, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc., that the very mention of these things makes it impossible for them to function. “
Yes, the snowflakes are getting us very close to the book burning stage. Which is really strange since so many of them have probably played a lot of violent video games yet they are traumatized by seeing scary words in print.
Universities are finding it difficult to teach literature because so many students claim they have been so traumatized by experiences of rape, abuse, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc., that the very mention of these things makes it impossible for them to function. “
Yes, the snowflakes are getting us very close to the book burning stage. Which is really strange since so many of them have probably played a lot of violent video games yet they are traumatized by seeing scary words in print.
Perhaps I was reacting because the comments were from Stephen Fry. It may be that he was commenting because he was the victim of child abuse and decided to embrace it rather than continue the trauma. I agree that some will be able to get past their trauma, but many cannot. I don’t bash them because they are still traumatized and I think it could be disastrous to just tell them to ‘get over it’.
As far as “Macbeth” is concerned, I think he confused it with “Richard III,” where Richard has the two sons of his brother, Edward IV, murdered while in Richard’s custody.
I’m glad to hear that you have been able to get on with your life. I just think it’s necessary to help those who cannot, rather than denigrating them. And I agree there are some who want attention because of their trauma, but I think they are a minority of the abuse victims.
One might guess as to how he became that way, and that in his own current predilections, has not yet been caught.
one of the reasons I’ve learned so much on this board is I’ve never been afraid to admit when I don’t know something.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I still have to read both and Hamlet. If I did read them, I don’t remember a darn thing.
Macbeth sends murderers to Macduff's castle, where they kill his wife and young son.
I agree with helping people. But help them to get over it and move on, don’t help them to wallow in their misery.
Forgive me, but I LOATHE all these women who run around wearing pink and making a big deal out of a case of breast cancer they dealt with long before I was even born.
That’s who they’ve been for 30 years?
That’s actually more tragic than their disease.
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