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Kasich: 'Establishment' not going to let Trump, Cruz become nominee
The Washington Examiner ^ | April 10, 2016 | By Rudy Takala (@RudyTakal

Posted on 04/10/2016 7:26:30 PM PDT by kevcol

Republican delegates are not going to be likely to support either Donald Trump or Texas Sen. Ted Cruz when they get to the party's national convention in July, Ohio Gov. John Kasich said on Sunday.
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"Here's what's interesting," Kasich said, suggesting that he was prepared to go down in history. "I am the second choice of both the Cruz people and also the Trump people. As you know, we've had 10 contested conventions, and only three times has the front-runner won. I don't want to go back in history too far, but I think old Honest Abe went into the convention either third or fourth and came out the winner. So we'll see."

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KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016gopprimary; contestedconvention; cruz; kasich; rinos; trump
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To: kevcol
Do it - I wish the GOPe would end this in 2016!!!!


121 posted on 04/11/2016 6:43:04 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SmokingJoe
Ted Cruz won the US Senate seat in Texas, despite furious opposition from McConnell and the GOPe and against great odds.

The opposition he had two years ago is nothing, compared to what he will face in 2020 if he fails to stop Trump.

And, no, the Establishment will not tolerate Cruz becoming President. If Cruz goes even a millimeter "off script", his entire past will be laid bare.

122 posted on 04/11/2016 6:44:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: JerseyDvl

You are going to have to read up on who has been working on the delegate selections in the states to make sure that people sympathetic to his cause are selected as delegates and getting his people into the all important rules committee.
Hint : Its not Donald tRump.
Another hint: his name starts with a “C”

By the time they get to Cleveland, it will be all over unless tRump gets it on first ballot. He won’t.


123 posted on 04/11/2016 6:47:11 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: kevcol

I kind of recall the Nazis rigging elections.


124 posted on 04/11/2016 6:48:16 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Nuc 1.1
Yeah. I’m thinking those positions won’t sit well with us vulgarians who support both candidates. As a Cruz guy Trump is my second choice. Hope it is reciprocal with the Trump folks. So, no Kasich ...ever.

I am going for Trump; Cruz would be my second choice & I will vote Cruz over Sanders or Hillary.

But screw Kasich, Ryan, Romney. I will cast a vote for Sanders or Hillary over Rhinos. If someone (i.e. establishment RINO) other than Trump or Cruz gets the nom, then it is time to implode the GOP.
125 posted on 04/11/2016 6:50:38 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: PapaBear3625
Chuckle!
You have no idea what odds Ted Cruz overcame to win that US Senate seat. For starters he was at like 3% in the polls, and the margin of error was 5%. His opponent had the entire GOPe behind him and had over 100 times as much money as Ted Cruz. Cruz still won
Your post is stupid. Mitch McConnell is simply not in a position to threaten Ted Cruz over his reelection in any way.
126 posted on 04/11/2016 6:56:15 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

We’ll see old smoky but this will due people up and enable an easy 1237 and first ballot success.
If I’m wrong then I’ll gladly eat crow.


127 posted on 04/11/2016 7:01:17 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (#NeverCruz)
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To: COUNTrecount

Cruz has majorities in Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin, and likely Wyoming(9-1-1-1 with 14 selected this weekend). He also has a strong chance in several more states.


128 posted on 04/11/2016 7:02:36 AM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: kevcol
Trump is the man who has premised his whole campaign on his ability to make deals, winning deals, deals that are good for America, with the bad guys.

Bad guys like Reid and Pelosi, not to mention our enemies in China, Russia, and Iran.

So if he arrives at the convention with (say) 1,187 delegates, he'll need to put all his legendary deal making skill to work.

If he can do that, and get the nomination, I'll publicly apologize on FR for everything negative I've ever said about Trump's competence.

129 posted on 04/11/2016 7:02:54 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'll sue, it's very big, horse face, believe me, big wall, tariffs, I'm rich, unfair!)
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To: Bayou Dittohead

As subservient to the machine as he may be, he’s more Outer Party than Inner and a lot of GOPe despise him personally (as Lindsey Graham’s recent comments made clear).

That Cruz is an establishment stalking horse shouldn’t be in question. There’s only a handful of people who worked on the North American Union and one of them is his wife. No loyal American would let their spouse participate in such a thing.


130 posted on 04/11/2016 7:08:51 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: SmokingJoe
You have no idea what odds Ted Cruz overcame to win that US Senate seat.

Oh, I do. Cruz lost the initial primary election, winning in the runoff by a moderate amount.

My point is, it would not take much more to make him lose his Senate seat in 2020.

131 posted on 04/11/2016 7:11:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: DrewsDad

What percentage of the popular vote did Cruz get in Colorado?


132 posted on 04/11/2016 7:15:41 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lincoln won on the fourth ballot.

And then over 500,000 Americans died in the most uncivil war in our history.

133 posted on 04/11/2016 7:17:46 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Oh, I do. Cruz lost the initial primary election, winning in the runoff by a moderate amount.

My point exactly! That is why Cruz is going to crush Trump at the convention, even if he is behind in the delegate count going into the convention.
Same end result : Cruz wins.
Cruz knows the rules. tRump doesn't. For reference, look what happened in Colorado over the weekend.

134 posted on 04/11/2016 7:33:21 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Fantasywriter
The State GOP set the rules to hold a caucus.

Do you think this caught Trump by surprise?

135 posted on 04/11/2016 7:33:48 AM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Cruz on the second ballot. You heard it here first.”

Okay... WHY?

If the delegates pick a candidate other than the front runner (who, you must admit, will probably be Trump) the only reason for doing so is that they do not consider the front runner to be the strongest candidate against the Democrat.

Do you wish to argue that Ted Cruz, who’s only supported by the far right (and most certainly will continue to be) has more crossover (and thus wider) appeal than Donald Trump? I can’t see ANY way in which he would be a stronger candidate against Hillary, so I can’t see ANY reason why delegates would put him in a position to run against her.

As for Kasich, I’m not sure if he’s delusional or just coming up with BS to cover the fact that he has absolutely NO reason (other than a spoiler) to remain in this race. Kasich, too, doesn’t have a prayer against Hillary.


136 posted on 04/11/2016 7:36:49 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: DrewsDad

What was the overall voter turnout for the caucuses, and what percentage of the popular vote did Cruz get?


137 posted on 04/11/2016 7:39:53 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: PapaBear3625
As for Texas and McConnell having any influence in the US Senate primaries, forget it. Its not gonna happen. McConnell is about as popular as poison in Texas and Ted Cruz is a hero in Texas for standing up to the GOPe. You should have been there when Ted Cruz went back to Texas after his filibuster of Obamacare. He got a hero's welcome.
No one can beat Ted Cruz in Texas.
138 posted on 04/11/2016 7:41:09 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Fantasywriter
You would have to ask someone who attended the Colorado State Convention/Caucus on the numbers and votes.

The Green Papers - Colorado Republican

139 posted on 04/11/2016 7:46:43 AM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: Pravious
Do you wish to argue that Ted Cruz, who’s only supported by the far right (and most certainly will continue to be) has more crossover (and thus wider) appeal than Donald Trump?

He doesn't have to argue anything. The Real Clear Politics averages for head to heads with Hilary Clinton does all the arguing. Ted Cruz does VASTLY BETTER against Hilary Clinton than Sleazy tRump does. And its been like that for close to a year. Its not going to change.

140 posted on 04/11/2016 7:48:28 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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