Posted on 04/08/2016 5:11:59 PM PDT by mandaladon
About half a dozen times in the past few weeks I have been taken aside by a 20-something whos looking for reassurance that the republic will not end. There has never been any campaign like this in the history of the nation, they say, and they know this is true because theyve read it everywhere.
We have officially hit a new low in political discourse, declared Stephen Colbert (after Trumps penis allusion on national television). Next, the Huffington Post warned, Recent violence at Trump rallies marks a new low for American politics. Not long after that, the Financial Times said: Trump v Cruz hits new low as wives dragged into fray.
A new low. A new low? Heavens no, I say, in my best wizened voice. Not even close. Rather than ending the republic, these folks would fit right in with the men who founded it. Whats distressing is not that this adolescent baiting and sniping is unheard of, but that it isnt. We should have outgrown this by now.
To wit:
Name calling: Donald Trump, in particular, is so fond of calling people names that a running list of epithets being kept by the New York Times now includes more than 200 of his targets. Not a one of his zingers comes close to what leaders and would-be leaders spat at each other throughout history though, and not just because Trump uses far fewer syllables.
Jeffersons supporters, for instance, described Adams as suffering from a hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman. Adams supporters in turn called Jefferson a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father.
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When this is done, Trump will have won all 13 of the original 13 Colonies. You don't get more America than that.
“The Founding Fathers” is a... troublesome? term. They were ALL great, all (6) of them (I believe it is 6) possessed of truly extraordinary qualities, but... they differed on a LOT of things and issues. This constant equating of them is nonsense. Their differences became STARKLY exposed very soon after the ratification of the Cons.
Also, JQA is NOT an FF. Andrew Jackson is an FF, so I’m not sure what the point is.
Which is fine, I deferred for 4 years and had a low number, luck of the draw.
But honestly, Donald as an equal to the founders in intellect and courage, give me a break.
Different times, maybe he didn't have the opportunity. And was too busy to engage in governance till his fortune was secure.
Not worth making a big issue, but the 7 “founding fathers” frequently referenced based on a 1970s historian are John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington. Lots of founding fathers, those who fought, and those who lost children. I’d have included Sam Adams amongst those, heck, a military/political incompetent but Paul Revere gets credit for the famous poem. Andrew Jackson, 9 at the founding, give him credit for being the first populist Democrat.
7 ways Donald Trump is just like the Founding Fathers
He has sheep teeth, a puffed up fake bouffant, a lot of people in Europe want to hang him and I forget the rest.
Just joking people.
Wins the liberal NorthEast. Woop-de-doo! Try that against Hillary in the general in those liberal bastions. Trump would get creamed. Fortunately, for us, we do not have to worry about Trump vs Hillary. It will be Cruz vs Hillary, so Cruz will easily cruise past the witch everywhere else.
I will vote for Trump ahead of hitlery and boyknee, but seriously... Can anyone on this forum tell me, with a straight face...that The Donald could have come up with the Constitution? Or have contributed to a Constitutional Convention?
Avoid foreign entanglements.
What an excellent point - and one of the major reasons the uniparty globalists are against Trump.
“. It will be Cruz vs Hillary, so Cruz will easily cruise past the witch everywhere else.”
Yeah, right. The libs of both parties are pushing for Cruz to get the nomination because he can’t win. He has little personality, comes across as unlikable, and has shown himself to be a dirty politician.
But didn't Trump marry some European woman? ...oh wait.
So Cruz will somehow win the states in the general election that he can’t even come close to winning in the primaries? Hardly seems likely...
“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
Let me know when he learns to communicate like that.
“So Cruz will somehow win the states in the general election that he cant even come close to winning in the primaries? Hardly seems likely...”
As I said, all Republicans will coalesce around Cruz after the delegates are taken care of in the convention.
Trump-Only “Republicans” are just RINOs that have switched from Democrats to vote for Trump, so they either will fall in line and vote for the true Conservative Republican, or they will crawl back to where they came from.
“As I said, all Republicans will coalesce around Cruz after the delegates are taken care of in the convention.”
Dream on
gope will desert him just like they did Goldwater.
And if the ‘Dems who vote for Trump ... will crawl back where they came from’, how do you propose to get 270 EV.
Oh wait! .... your post is a joke , right !
Interesting historical anecdotes, regarding the mudslinging...
I think the press would do well to do the research... including what Lincoln wanted to do to the press...
“And if the Dems who vote for Trump ... will crawl back where they came from, how do you propose to get 270 EV.”
What a dishonest reply. You “...” over the most important part of my argument.
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