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Army Chief of Staff Opposes Private Weapons for Protection on U.S. Military Installations
CNS News ^ | 4/7/16 | Susan Jones

Posted on 04/07/2016 7:30:38 PM PDT by Nachum

(CNSNews.com) - "I've been around guns all my life. I know how to use them, and arming our people on our military bases and allowing them to carry concealed, privately owned weapons -- I do not recommend that as a force protection," Army Chief of Staff General Mark Milley told Congress on Thursday.

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) asked Milley what the Army is doing to provide force protection at military bases and facilities in the United States, following last summer's attack on a Marine recruiting center and a Navy Reserve facility in Chattanooga, Tennessee, that killed four Marines and one sailor.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; banglist; forthood; mikemilley; military; private; rop; weapons; workplaceviolence
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To: FlyingEagle
Ask people in Fort Hood if that is a good idea.

Well, Hood did get a twofer, April, 2014 - 3 dead and 16 injured. November, 2009 - 13 dead and 32 wounded. (Let's not even bother with the July, 2009 shooting death on base, or the September, 2008 shooting. Or the unsuccessful 2011 attack.)

Navy Yard clocks in with 12 dead, 4 injured in the September, 2013 attack.

Fort Bragg, October, 1995 - one dead, 18 wounded.

As for recruiting centers, the Pentagon just doesn't care. No significant changes in security between the June, 2009 Little Rock attack by Muzzis and the 2015 attack by Muzzis in Chattanooga.

Personal disputes omitted.

Maybe we should start using the phrase 'going military' instead of 'going postal'

(And of course, the analysis of military intelligence wouldn't be complete without the June 1994 attack at the base hospital near Spokane - 4 dead, 23 wounded.)

Unrelated military trivia question: How many mutinies by Blacks took place in World War II that had to be put down by force?

21 posted on 04/07/2016 7:59:16 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Nachum

I remember seeing Scottish soldiers home on leave during WWI.

They had their Enfields slung over their shoulder. I guess they were more trustworthy than now.


22 posted on 04/07/2016 8:05:35 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: onedoug

Redundant. PC == nuts.


23 posted on 04/07/2016 8:06:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: yarddog

I should have said I saw pictures of them. I am not that old.


24 posted on 04/07/2016 8:06:40 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Nachum

General Milley sounds just like an Obama appointee.


25 posted on 04/07/2016 8:07:21 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: OldSmaj

I knew GEN Starry & his wife Lettie as members of the church I attended. A good, kind, and generous man in private. Sometimes the job makes the man; maybe true for him professionally. He now rests with honor at Arlington.

Oh, and the perfumed prince who acts at being the current Army COS is a knothead.


26 posted on 04/07/2016 8:07:33 PM PDT by twister881
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To: yarddog
I remember seeing Scottish soldiers home on leave during WWI.

Och! Ye'r older than I thought.

27 posted on 04/07/2016 8:13:05 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't know what Claire Wolfe is thinking, but I know what I'm thinking.)
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To: Nachum
...and the pompous Flag Rank should Court Marshelled and Charged after the next homicide as an Accessory Before The Fact and Willful Disregard.
28 posted on 04/07/2016 8:13:36 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Nachum

[Army Chief of Staff Opposes Private Weapons for Protection on U.S. Military Installations]

How’s about, I dunno, MILITARY WEAPONS!!!???


29 posted on 04/07/2016 8:14:05 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: ClearCase_guy; yarddog

I’m impressed! (either way)


30 posted on 04/07/2016 8:16:35 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Nachum
It's not quite as stupid as it sounds. Here's what the General added:

"One size won't fit all," Milley said. "It'll depend on locality, risk and so on." If a local commander does authorize military personnel to carry weapons, they must be trained and they must carry government-owned weapons.

So, his real position is (1) it's up to the local commander, and (2) they have to be government-owned weapons. That probably means open carry as well. I could go with that, if the local commander also assumes responsibility for whatever happens if he doesn't authorize it. But this business of if command authorizes it, they "must be trained" argues that either they aren't now or that the General is under that impression. Everybody trains, everybody qualifies, or they need to find another line of work.

31 posted on 04/07/2016 8:20:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Nachum

Yeah, I’d be against “personal” weapons too. Not their service weapons.


32 posted on 04/07/2016 8:24:49 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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To: Nachum

Well I guess this shoots a hole in the liberal theory that the second amendment was only meant for the military.


33 posted on 04/07/2016 8:28:34 PM PDT by Ruger1099
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To: Nachum

Well, looks like his last name fits.


34 posted on 04/07/2016 8:29:12 PM PDT by Captain7seas (My daddy was not a postman)
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To: Nachum

The Army Chief of Staff has body guards?


35 posted on 04/07/2016 8:30:40 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: TYVets

All officers who have a driver have in essence a bodyguard.


36 posted on 04/07/2016 8:38:21 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Nachum
So it's ok to train these fellas with automatic weapons, send them off to a foreign land and shoot the bad guys, but you can't trust 'em here at home????

We're in bizarro world for sure.

37 posted on 04/07/2016 8:39:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: WorkingClassFilth
“Uh, we’ve got, like, two dudes at the gate with some kick-butt rifles, man.”

I remember the elevated DEFCON levels just after 911, a Ft. Huachuca Commander ordered roving guards armed with baseball bats, flashlights, canteens w/TA-12 and helmet liners. The CDR was female, but ass grabbing Claudia Kennedy had already left. Most other Army posts were locked and loaded.

38 posted on 04/07/2016 8:40:16 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

The first thing our next Commander In Chief must do is purge the officer senior ranks of leaders like this who obsess over political correctness
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Absolutely! The SecDefs and military Chiefs selected by Obama have all been wussies promoting the decline of the US military strength.

Recent interviews with three of Obama’s former SecDefs indicate they disagreed with the directions he was giving for changing the DoD into a weak-sister and promoting the LGBT culture. ......Then why in hell didn’t they quit? They liked the power and addition to their resume’s!


39 posted on 04/07/2016 8:51:55 PM PDT by octex
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To: dp0622

Post #31 clarifies things a bit.


40 posted on 04/07/2016 8:57:53 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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