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Protecting a phone? Are you hearing yourself? They were protecting their intellectual property! You can’t expect any security in your digital transactions if there are backdoors present, even if the backdoor was put there for a “benevolent” entity such as the government. SOMEONE will eventually find it and exploit it.

You people wishing ill on Apple are incredible. They’re trying to protect the fidelity of ALL of our digital transactions, not just their own. The FBI “figured out a way around” the protections, great. Good for them. They hacked their way in. They call that “white hat” in my industry, and it happens all the time. Strong arming a company into giving up its keys is tantamount to extortion.

Pound sand, the lot of you!


12 posted on 03/31/2016 10:37:58 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Hear, Hear!


14 posted on 03/31/2016 10:40:40 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: rarestia

“You people wishing ill on Apple are incredible. “

You people thinking Apple is the center of the universe are incredible. If those folks that were murdered and got off because we couldn’t exercise a legally executed warrant, or, for that matter, exonerated by it, do you and your offspring would be living in a better world? Seriously? When do you think the Constitution should work, when it is easy to employ? Throw out the 4th Amendment PROTECTIONS and you will really see the spit hit the spam.


17 posted on 03/31/2016 10:46:07 AM PDT by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: rarestia

Ditto that!


18 posted on 03/31/2016 10:46:40 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: rarestia
Protecting a phone? Are you hearing yourself? They were protecting their intellectual property! You can’t expect any security in your digital transactions if there are backdoors present, even if the backdoor was put there for a “benevolent” entity such as the government. SOMEONE will eventually find it and exploit it.

Usage of the word "Backdoor" is a deliberate lie created by Apple. Do not use the word "Backdoor." You are simply abetting a lie.

The FBI did not ask for a "back door." The FBI did not ask for any sort of door. The FBI agreed to let Apple inc keep the phone and to keep the software used to unlock the phone, and only Apple inc would have control of it.

Apple started a LYING SCREAM FEST and ginned up all their cultish followers to help spread the lie. They have been so successful at spreading the lie that even people who should know better are now repeating it.

Strong arming a company into giving up its keys is tantamount to extortion.

Another example of how Apple's LIE was so successful. Nobody was asking for keys. Apple would keep all keys, but Apple did everything they could to make certain that nobody understood this, because if people understood that Apple would retain complete custody of everything, they wouldn't have been able to gin up the fake outrage.

30 posted on 03/31/2016 11:06:46 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rarestia
Ditto your comments!

(Those of us who aren't Apple fan's get it, btw .....)

39 posted on 03/31/2016 11:20:24 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: rarestia

Yep and all the other big companies treat people’s info as a commodity to buy and sell, but Apple is really the bad guys here. Sad!


41 posted on 03/31/2016 11:22:25 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: rarestia

If Apple is too stupid to provide security AND permit the rule of law then don’t invest in their stock.
Other companies will.
Encryption solely for the ability to evade the law will be provided more cheaply by hackers.

So there’ll be no market for Apple encryption.


63 posted on 03/31/2016 12:29:35 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: rarestia
Protecting a phone? Are you hearing yourself? They were protecting their intellectual property! You can’t expect any security in your digital transactions if there are backdoors present, even if the backdoor was put there for a “benevolent” entity such as the government. SOMEONE will eventually find it and exploit it.

You people wishing ill on Apple are incredible. They’re trying to protect the fidelity of ALL of our digital transactions, not just their own. The FBI “figured out a way around” the protections, great. Good for them. They hacked their way in. They call that “white hat” in my industry, and it happens all the time. Strong arming a company into giving up its keys is tantamount to extortion.

Pound sand, the lot of you!

HEAR! HEAR!

The fact is that this is not going to end well. Being a forensic technique, the defense will be entitled to have a copy/access to the software/technique used to access the data in the iPhone if it is introduced in the trial of these two murderers. That has meant in the past that as soon as their IT specialists get their hands on it, it's out in the wild. No secret survives discovery. None, even if it is under seal.

Apple has learned this to their detriment multiple times in lawsuits. Judges have ordered them to reveal company secrets to the opposition under seal, guaranteeing them it will go no further than the opposition's legal counsel, only to have these secrets being used against Apple by the opposition company who was never supposed to see those data. The fines are always less than $10,000 and frequently only $100 for breaking seal in a court case for data that may be worth billions of dollars! You tell me what choice some money grubbing intern or IT specialist might make, especially when it won't be him who pays the fine.

I heard on Radio KFBK in Sacramento today that the Sacramento County Sheriff's Office has 88 Apple iPhones they intend to request the FBI open using this technique.

The saving grace of this technique is that it requires expensive equipment that not every John Doe hacker will have access to or the skill to use. It also requires physical access to the target iOS device, and most likely only works on the specific model of iPhone/iOS devices that uses the A6 processor with the Encryption Engine design that the Terrorist's iPhone 5C had.

71 posted on 03/31/2016 4:03:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: rarestia

Save your breath. I am astonished at the ignorance of many on this site who hate Apple so much that they miss the importance of this case. I stand by my earlier statement that I support Apple fully, and I praise them for standing up to the tyranny of the federal government. The FBI blinked and now they are in full spin mode to make this look like they got what they wanted. I do not believe for a minute that the FBI hacked into the dead terrorists’ iPhone.


134 posted on 04/01/2016 8:17:57 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: rarestia

I despise Apple, but I agree 100% with your comments.


162 posted on 04/05/2016 7:42:03 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Cruz=VAT tax= No thanks.)
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