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Cruz Comes Out for Abortion: Even If Abortion is Illegal 'Women Who Get Them' Should Not Be Punished
Editorial ^ | 30 Mar 16 | Xzins

Posted on 03/30/2016 2:07:44 PM PDT by xzins

The Cruz campaign has gone on record supporting women getting abortions. The campaign says there should be no punishment for those women if abortion is illegal. Deadline Hollywood reports:

Ted Cruz campaign chairman Chad Sweet...this afternoon told CNN’s Jake Tapper that Cruz believes in punishment for doctors who perform abortions, not the women who get them.

Pro-life supporters are scratching their heads. If they succeed in getting a pro-life amendment, Ted Cruz appears to be saying that the amendment should contain some kind of non-culpability clause, so that Congress can write any law resulting from a Life Amendment in a manner that allows women to have abortions in this country with no worries about the law.

In fact, since Cruz thinks only doctors should be punished, if a nurse or other type of provider performs the abortion, then the odd situation of a Life Amendment with abortions still being performed will be the result. The bottom line is that Ted Cruz has no problem with women having abortions.

One has to wonder sometimes about lawyers.


TOPICS: Editorial; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; conservativecrackup; cruz; dishonest; dishonestastrump; idiocy; really; seriously; trump4abortions; trump4womyn; trumploveswomyn; whathetrump
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To: xzins
Ping. Here’s a conundrum

If he had worn a conundrum in the first place, there wouldn't be a fetus :>)....

161 posted on 03/30/2016 5:47:37 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: xzins

If a woman conspires and hires someone to off her husband, she is punished....if a woman conspires and hires someone to off her child why shouldn’t she be punished???


162 posted on 03/30/2016 5:50:30 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: hawkaw

If women should not be punished, then why punish the doctor? Then why outlaw it? You can’t apply 1 standard for this group yet give a free pass to another group.

It’s like allowing abortions in case of rape. That is not what conservatives believe.


163 posted on 03/30/2016 5:53:01 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The baby is torn limb from limb. His head is brutally punctured. He is burned alive.

Isn’t his mother an accessory to murder?


164 posted on 03/30/2016 5:56:33 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: gbscott1954

Wow. Look at the replies to your comment. You made one doozy of a stupid remark and you got flamed for it.


165 posted on 03/30/2016 5:57:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Longbow1969; xzins; All

“Cruz’s position is exactly that of most pro-life organizations. ....”

This is true, and I just saw some of the pro-lifers on one of the nightly news TV programs showing they do not want the women punished.

I have no problem with people either disagreeing, or agreeing with them, as long as they are sincere. BUT to say that pro-lifers who focus on punishing the abortionists, but not the woman, means they are not pro-life, is a LIE.


166 posted on 03/30/2016 5:57:40 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: xzins

Ah.

Hangers make their return engagement.


167 posted on 03/30/2016 5:57:57 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: gbscott1954

The same number of years any woman deserves who commits murder.


168 posted on 03/30/2016 6:00:07 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is silly season. Mr. Trump CHANGED his mind. He now agrees that the woman should NOT be punished.

So by default Mr. Trump is in favor of abortion.

Both Mr. Cruz and Mr. Trump made sensible statements...it just took a little longer for Mr. Trump to realize he stepped in it.


169 posted on 03/30/2016 6:00:14 PM PDT by Lakewood
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To: xzins

“Trump’s common sense led him at first to the right answer. Sadly, crowd pressure got the best of sound logic.”

Oh my, oh my, oh my. And it only took a couple of hours for the “crowd pressure” to consume the toughest hombre running for President and force him to change his mind. That’s what I want in a President...principles that are never broken. Yes, that’s sarcasm.


170 posted on 03/30/2016 6:00:14 PM PDT by Lakewood
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To: Responsibility2nd

Maybe read post 166.


171 posted on 03/30/2016 6:00:32 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: gbscott1954

The same number of years any woman deserves who commits murder.


172 posted on 03/30/2016 6:00:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; gbscott1954

Mr. Trump agrees with him.


173 posted on 03/30/2016 6:02:19 PM PDT by Lakewood
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To: hawkaw

I am not convinced. There are plenty of “pro lifers” who would look the other way in cases of rape or incest.

I’m taking a severe position. I admit it. But I repeat; if you want to give a free pass to the one person who is most responsible for the murder of their own child; then you are pro abortion.

Period.


174 posted on 03/30/2016 6:07:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: All

There is a REASON why pro-life groups are supporting TED CRUZ! Think about it!

Here is just one example:

“Senator Ted Cruz of Texas stands with Priests for Life in our lawsuit against the HHS Mandate of the President Obama administration. On May 8, 2014, while oral arguments were heard in the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit, the second most influential Court in the United States, there was a Rally for Religious Freedom on its steps in support of religious non-profits. ....”

excerpt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP1l8hhQEAU&feature=youtu.be

When I went to the Priests for Life website, TED CRUZ was the ONLY PRESIDENTIAL candidate that I saw on their political leaders list. I did not even see Marco Rubio there, even before Rubio dropped out.

See for yourself: http://www.priestsforlife.org/hhsmandate/statements.aspx


175 posted on 03/30/2016 6:07:56 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Lakewood

I wouldn’t drag flip flop Trump intro this argument. Either he was right this morning and wrong this afternoon. Or vice versa. Either way, he is a flip flopping fool.


176 posted on 03/30/2016 6:10:22 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: xzins

Everyone directly involved in the abortion should be punished.


177 posted on 03/30/2016 6:12:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lakewood

Trump stepped in it all right. When he did a flip flop and changed his mind. But what do you expect from a man that supports Planned Parenthood?


178 posted on 03/30/2016 6:13:49 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: xzins

I figured some idiot would come to this conclusion.

And there it is!


179 posted on 03/30/2016 6:36:35 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: xzins; Jim Robinson; 20yearsofinternet; tirednvirginia; PJBankard; stephenjohnbanker; Lakeshark; ...

This is an excellent thread Xzins, thanks for posting it.

As I see it, any woman who voluntarily chooses to have an abortion (outside of medical necessity, i.e. her life is threatened by pregnancy), is making herself an accomplice to murder, and should indeed be penalized:

After the abortion, give her a mandatory tubal ligation so she won’t be a party to any more abortions, plus she won’t have to worry about unwanted pregnancy. If she decides later that she wants to be a mother, let her adopt - plenty of kids out there needing parents.


180 posted on 03/30/2016 6:40:07 PM PDT by mkjessup ("I will drop him [Cruz] like a hot potato if these accusations are true." ~ Glenn Beck - 3-28-2016)
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