Posted on 03/30/2016 2:07:44 PM PDT by xzins
The Cruz campaign has gone on record supporting women getting abortions. The campaign says there should be no punishment for those women if abortion is illegal. Deadline Hollywood reports:
Ted Cruz campaign chairman Chad Sweet...this afternoon told CNNs Jake Tapper that Cruz believes in punishment for doctors who perform abortions, not the women who get them.
Pro-life supporters are scratching their heads. If they succeed in getting a pro-life amendment, Ted Cruz appears to be saying that the amendment should contain some kind of non-culpability clause, so that Congress can write any law resulting from a Life Amendment in a manner that allows women to have abortions in this country with no worries about the law.
In fact, since Cruz thinks only doctors should be punished, if a nurse or other type of provider performs the abortion, then the odd situation of a Life Amendment with abortions still being performed will be the result. The bottom line is that Ted Cruz has no problem with women having abortions.
One has to wonder sometimes about lawyers.
If he had worn a conundrum in the first place, there wouldn't be a fetus :>)....
If a woman conspires and hires someone to off her husband, she is punished....if a woman conspires and hires someone to off her child why shouldn’t she be punished???
If women should not be punished, then why punish the doctor? Then why outlaw it? You can’t apply 1 standard for this group yet give a free pass to another group.
It’s like allowing abortions in case of rape. That is not what conservatives believe.
The baby is torn limb from limb. His head is brutally punctured. He is burned alive.
Isn’t his mother an accessory to murder?
Wow. Look at the replies to your comment. You made one doozy of a stupid remark and you got flamed for it.
“Cruzs position is exactly that of most pro-life organizations. ....”
This is true, and I just saw some of the pro-lifers on one of the nightly news TV programs showing they do not want the women punished.
I have no problem with people either disagreeing, or agreeing with them, as long as they are sincere. BUT to say that pro-lifers who focus on punishing the abortionists, but not the woman, means they are not pro-life, is a LIE.
Ah.
Hangers make their return engagement.
The same number of years any woman deserves who commits murder.
This is silly season. Mr. Trump CHANGED his mind. He now agrees that the woman should NOT be punished.
So by default Mr. Trump is in favor of abortion.
Both Mr. Cruz and Mr. Trump made sensible statements...it just took a little longer for Mr. Trump to realize he stepped in it.
“Trumps common sense led him at first to the right answer. Sadly, crowd pressure got the best of sound logic.”
Oh my, oh my, oh my. And it only took a couple of hours for the “crowd pressure” to consume the toughest hombre running for President and force him to change his mind. That’s what I want in a President...principles that are never broken. Yes, that’s sarcasm.
Maybe read post 166.
The same number of years any woman deserves who commits murder.
Mr. Trump agrees with him.
I am not convinced. There are plenty of “pro lifers” who would look the other way in cases of rape or incest.
I’m taking a severe position. I admit it. But I repeat; if you want to give a free pass to the one person who is most responsible for the murder of their own child; then you are pro abortion.
Period.
There is a REASON why pro-life groups are supporting TED CRUZ! Think about it!
Here is just one example:
Senator Ted Cruz of Texas stands with Priests for Life in our lawsuit against the HHS Mandate of the President Obama administration. On May 8, 2014, while oral arguments were heard in the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit, the second most influential Court in the United States, there was a Rally for Religious Freedom on its steps in support of religious non-profits. ....
excerpt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP1l8hhQEAU&feature=youtu.be
When I went to the Priests for Life website, TED CRUZ was the ONLY PRESIDENTIAL candidate that I saw on their political leaders list. I did not even see Marco Rubio there, even before Rubio dropped out.
See for yourself: http://www.priestsforlife.org/hhsmandate/statements.aspx
I wouldn’t drag flip flop Trump intro this argument. Either he was right this morning and wrong this afternoon. Or vice versa. Either way, he is a flip flopping fool.
Everyone directly involved in the abortion should be punished.
Trump stepped in it all right. When he did a flip flop and changed his mind. But what do you expect from a man that supports Planned Parenthood?
I figured some idiot would come to this conclusion.
And there it is!
This is an excellent thread Xzins, thanks for posting it.
As I see it, any woman who voluntarily chooses to have an abortion (outside of medical necessity, i.e. her life is threatened by pregnancy), is making herself an accomplice to murder, and should indeed be penalized:
After the abortion, give her a mandatory tubal ligation so she won’t be a party to any more abortions, plus she won’t have to worry about unwanted pregnancy. If she decides later that she wants to be a mother, let her adopt - plenty of kids out there needing parents.
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