Posted on 03/29/2016 7:27:07 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
The Supreme Court announced a tie vote today in what labor law experts had called a "life-or-death" case for public employee unions.
The split decision preserves a long-standing rule that requires about half of the nation's teachers, transit workers and other public employees to pay a "fair share fee" to support their union.
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Conservatives are anxious and happy to ride their morality ideals and Utopia visions all the way to the depths of hell and pull their children down with them.
You use your vote as a weapon to STOP damage, not to elect whom you want to get in. Democrats learned this 50 years ago.
It’s not a new precedent and not national law. The states decide. The following is from a NYT article earlier this year.
In the 1977 decision, Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, the Supreme Courtmade a distinction between two kinds of compelled payments. Forcing nonmembers to pay for a union’s political activities violated the First Amendment, the court said. But it was constitutional, the court added, to require nonmembers to help pay for the unions collective bargaining efforts to prevent freeloading and ensure labor peace.
I know many, as did I, ate the excrement sammich (yet again). But several on this forum boast of their not voting for Romney. J’accuse.
The proper fight is what is taking place now, the battle for the standard bearer of the opposition to the dark side. The battle needs to be taken further to the precinct level, making sure that the GOPe is unseated. But once the die is cast it is time to suck it up. That Jugears got a second term should be sufficient notice.
The trouble with that is that a tie affirms the lower court ruling. The libs would merely run their cases through liberal lower courts knowing that a 4-4 tie will not overturn the lower court's decision.
If Obama’s pick had been there, he would not have voted to take away union power.
Don’t need a conspiracy theory.
He probably died of natural causes. But he DID die in a convenient moment for Obola.
And the pathetic thing is, you can tell from the Trumpers hate towards Cruz and everyone elses hate towards Trump that very, very few conservatives and/or Republicans have learned a darn thing, and are going to repeat the same fatal mistake in November.
Our freedom is rapidly leaving, but that's what we deserve.
This is what I was caught up in for 25 years. I was forced to pay thousands of dollars a year to an organization that was working against what I believed in.
Better yet, what good is GOVT if it will not support, follow, abide..by the Constitution?
A monopoly cannot exist WITHOUT govt. It’s one big $$-laundering scheme
The supreme court is supposed to say if something is constitutional. They are not supposed to make law, abortion is an easy example, constitution says its up to states because it is not specifically in the constitution.
Yup! Just heard Clinton say that the Wepublicans are politicizing the Supreme Court. The woman is totally clueless and she wants to be president. Dumb. Really dumb. The SCOTUS already is a political, lawmaking branch of the Federal government. If it wasn’t, we wouldn’t be having this fight. IMHO.
The Abood v. Detroit Board of Education was effective only upon the parties in involved, not all parties everywhere as is commonly supposed and followed. (AND a federal question case is legitimately effective ONLY IF the opinion and decision was reasonably based on the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended.)
All governments, state and federal, follow this constitutional perversion as easily seen with cases like Roe v. Wade. The feds and the states took Roe v. Wade as national federal law, a wrong conclusion on two counts. One, the decision was not constitutional, and two, even if the decision was constitutional, it was effective only upon the parties of the case.
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Critical case. Tie goes to the runner in baseball, in court, I guess it goes in favor of not overturning a lower court?
Damn we miss you, Justice Scalia.
“Damn we miss you, Justice Scalia.”
Indeed!
Weird that they hurried up to hear the case, eh?
The two issues are
1) Is the decision constitutional? If not, the lower courts should question the decision based on constitutional reasoning.
2) If the decision is constitutional, it is mandatory authority for lower courts only for the same questions of law and fact. No national law or sweeping judicial edict has been made.
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