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To: Neu Pragmatist
Not sure they really hated Cruz ...it’s my contention that Cruz was always the establishment’s “anti-establishment” candidate ... a very palatable last resort if you will ...

I'm going to make a really wild guess: I'm betting you're a Trump supporter.

Here are the real facts: Two people can win the GOP nomination. The current favorite is Trump. He is ahead and seems to be pulling away from the pack. The second is Ted Cruz.

Trump, IMHO, has one and only one way to win: Collect the 1237 delegates and win this thing outright.

Cruz, IMHO, has two ways to win. The first way is to get the 1237 delegates (a highly unlikely but nevertheless a theoretical possibility.) The second way is to pull delegate votes from Trump, Rubio, Kasich and Carson on a second and subsequent ballots assuming neither Trump or Cruz collect the necessary 1237 delegates.

But couldn't Trump do the same thing? He could but I don't think the delegates that are actually going to show up for this convention would agree. They are much more likely to have an anti-Trump bias than a pro-Trump bias.

Could I be wrong about that? it's possible. Frogs do fall from the sky I'm told. So apparently anything can happen.

Ted Cruz is going to be a great President.

22 posted on 03/23/2016 7:42:29 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

Here you can see Cruz saying that he wants illegals to come out of the shadows. Anyone think this Cruz is going to build a wall with Jeb, Grahamnesty and the amnesty crowd endorsing and funding Cruz , then anyone thinking that has got to be insane. If we don’t build the wall now the USA is done . ONLY Trump will do that . It’s the issue of population which affects all other issues as Ann Coulter pointed out. Here is Cruz flip flopping, lying, and saying he wants the illegals to come out of the shadows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VckRA4tYFo


30 posted on 03/23/2016 7:48:49 PM PDT by rurgan (only taxes allowed 5% federal sales tax, 3% state ,2% local. no income, no property tax)
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To: InterceptPoint

He won’t be Prez...we will not vote for him ...even if we did , he would still lose, but that’s what the GOPe wants ...have fun with it !


32 posted on 03/23/2016 7:50:01 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Stop the GOPe and DIMS ...Defeat Cruz, Levin, Beck, Romney - Vote Trump)
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To: InterceptPoint

The establishment doesn’t want either Trump or Cruz.
They are spending their money on Cruz in the hope that he and Trump come to the convention basically tied for delegates AND damaged by attacks like the “wife war” AND with their voters so mad at ‘the other guy’ that they’ll accept a selection from the delegates.

It will take some very nimble footwork to avoid that scenario.


57 posted on 03/23/2016 8:12:37 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: InterceptPoint
Ted Cruz is going to be a great President.

You're a Romney supporter, I see...

78 posted on 03/23/2016 8:33:07 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump will Triumph)
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To: InterceptPoint

A twist to the scenarios is that it is also possible, though not at all likely, that the candidates could go to the convention with Trump not leading in delegates, this rendering moot the idea that the nomination would be “stolen” from him.

One way would be for Cruz to win 65 percent of the remaining delegates, Trump wins the balance, Kasich wins nothing. Cruz ends up with 1072 delegates to Trump’s 1071. Cruz wins on second ballot using now-free Kasich, Rubio and other delegates without “stealing”, since Trump didn’t lead going into the convention.

Another way is for Kasich to start magically winning 67 percent of remaining delegates. Cruz wins 32 percent. Trump wins no more than seven delegates (I did say magic). Result: A three way tie with all three at 763 delegates. Kasich or Cruz get the nomination, again without “stealing” anything.

Of course some GOP fast dealing with the Rubio and other delegates prior to the first ballot would lower somewhat the required level of miracle for Trump’s opponents in these scenarios.


88 posted on 03/23/2016 8:44:41 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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