Posted on 03/21/2016 12:11:06 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
Top political aides to Sens. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz connected Friday to discuss how delegates currently bound to Rubio might be allocated, a Cruz campaign aide confirmed to RealClearPolitics.
Although the conversation between Rubio’s former campaign manager, Terry Sullivan, and Cruz Campaign Manager Jeff Roe was brief and no resolution was reached, the development suggests the two former rivals could be moving toward detente if not an active collaboration.
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If Rubio does decide to endorse Cruz, the aide said, that decision would likely be reached between the two of them, not among senior aides.
“Marco and Ted are good friends, so the reality is, this wouldn’t be like how other endorsements have taken place,” said the aide to Cruz. “The way this will happen is Marco and Ted will talk, and both of them will let us know.”
Another line of communication opened Friday, however, when Sullivan and Roe spoke by phone to discuss the fate of Rubio’s delegates. They also talked about the state of the race more generally, but did not touch on the possibility of an endorsement from Rubio.
Asked whether an agreement has been reached between the two camps, Roe said no. “We have no agreement … and any suggestion to the contrary is false,” he said. “Maybe it will become true, but that certainly is not the case right now in any shape, fashion or form.”
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I just want to apologize out loud for ever considering voting for such a turncoat as Cruz. He is vomitous.
“The GOPe is aligning with Cruz. That shows that Cruz can pull them to the right and not that the GOPe is pulling Cruz to the left. They have been trying to do that for several years and failed every time.”
Exactly. Trump is such a hideous nominee that the establishment is moving toward voting for a candidate they previously publicly said they hate.
Exactly how did Cruz become a turncoat?
So you are an establishment flunky...I can accept that...
I’m not....
Obviously, you have problems with reading comprehension.
No...Not at all...
I’m looking at this contest by what they bring to the table, what they run on, and whom is backing them or adamantly not.
I started on the Cruz side last year because of those suspicions about Trump, and as I watched the performance of both candidates over the fall, my allegiances switched. Trump had to prove himself to me, and everyone else, and he has done that through selfless acts where he risked his fortune, his safety, and all of his friends for positions that most big talkers on the right wouldn’t dream of. Cruz had an attitude of entitlement that is still evident in his supporters today.
Seeing how the election has shaken out as of now with the GOPe and Cruz getting in bed together, my choice was correct.
And who the hell is “Vandy”?
No that’s funny right there...
Trump = Clinton trojan horse.
I dont speak for them all.
But I can guarantee you a great deal of us will walk. So dont get cocky and think Cruz pulling some funny stuff with the GOPe will result in Trump’s crowds showing up and voting in November because that’s what good sheep should do.
I still do not understand why trump fans call him a turncoat...
There are so many conspiracy theories and assumptions based on pure speculation that it would take a cryptographer who minored in psychology to even begin understanding it.
Cruz isn’t in the race to get trump elected and never has been.
Did we call trump a turncoat when Christie endorsed him? No, we didn’t. Cruz hasn’t turned his back on you and his coat is still on the same side as it was when he filibustered for you.
“They’ve sucked so bad because this con-man blah blah blah”
Let me save you the wall of text.
“They didn’t win because Trump took the risks, got the issues, sold them better, got people excited, and thus won the votes”
“I know Trump supporters might have trouble with math”
How about you knock off the snark? Can a Cruz person pull that off? You guys seem to have a real issue posting without making snide comments about people’s intelligence.
“This threat of Trump and his supporters to walk is empty.”
Go ahead and test it then, if you are feeling lucky.
Those people coming out for Trump, pitting up from the insults from the left and brainless dopes in the GOP, aren’t doing it for whatever dope the GOPe tosses up on stage as an “alternative”.
“I still do not understand why trump fans call him a turncoat...”
It’s the only way that Trump-pets can justify a vote for Trump. If they didn’t trying to convince themselves that Cruz is the Devil, they would have to justify in their consciences why they would vote for a man who’s entire life has been spent supporting liberal candidates and liberal positions.
It’s not funny stuff. He’s working the system the best way he can to - Win. Not to lose gracefully.
It’s how the current system ‘works’ for good or ill.
trump fans want the current system to be broken. I get that. You have to win first. Winning means 50%+1.
This is one battle field the candidate can’t chose - it’s the one he’s stuck with.
I made up my mind about trump a while ago. I am open to having my mind changed during the general election cycle. If trump wins the nomination, first vote or subsequent votes - He’ll have an opportunity to change it. If he loses, he loses and it won’t matter.
Trumpbots believe that Donnie should just get a coronation if he wins the plurality of votes.
Ironically, Trump supporters vote for him because he’s not politically correct, but those same supporters now are arguing that it wouldn’t be politically correct for him to be denied the nomination, even if he doesn’t get 50% of the delegates.
I understand their frustration but the horse doesn’t win the race if it can’t cross the finish line - even when it’s the last horse standing.
I think trump would say “You have to close the deal.”
That’s nice.
But if Trump goes in with the majority of delegates, but somehow Cruz “works the system” to get delegates he did not win in votes to “win” the nomination, people are not going to care about that, and they will revolt.
You know this. The GOPe ought to know this. Those that cheer this on will be in for a rude shock.
What Impy said. It depends on the state.
In NH, the delegates for each candidate are picked by the candidates themselves (or at least by their local representatives), so presumably those that were elected as Trump delegates are for Trump and those that were elected as Cruz delegates are for Cruz (unless they have changed their minds, or were sleeper agents all along—cue the conspiracy theories).
In SC, the delegates to the National Convention haven’t even been selected yet, and will be picked by the state party from among the delegates elected at a state convention last year (before Trump (or maybe even Cruz) was a candidate). They will be selected from among those that were elected at a state convention last year, and will be instructed to vote in the first round for a particular candidate on the first ballot, based on the SC primary results. Of course, on the second ballot, all bets are off, and chances are that those South Carolina Republicans will care more about who can win the general election and adopt policies that will help South Carolina than who won a plurality at the state primary.
And, yes, Michigan has a weird delegate-selection method that could permit a well organized candidate to game the system (similar to how the Paulistinians routinely would fix state conventions by having Paultards show up pretending to support Santorum or Romney and after they were selected as delegates for such candidates announcing that thet would vote for Ron Paul at the National Convention).
So if the vote at the National Convention goes more than one ballot, we might see very different results than the initial vote. But it’s also possible that Cruz might win the nomination on the first ballot if he does well the rest of the way and if Rubio and some of the other dropouts instruct their delegates to vote for Cruz on the first ballot (and such delegates go along with it).
If trump gets the 50%+1 - it won’t matter. If he doesn’t, it does matter and if Cruz gets over 50% after the first vote - trump loses.
It’s the party of Lincoln and if Cruz wins it like Lincoln did - I’m okay with it.
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