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How Outsourcing Companies Are Gaming the Visa System
New York Times ^ | 03/21/2016 | By HAEYOUN PARK

Posted on 03/21/2016 10:10:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

H-1B visas are designed to bring foreign professionals with college degrees and specialized skills to fill jobs when qualified Americans cannot be found. But in recent years, global outsourcing companies have dominated the program, winning tens of thousands of visas and squeezing out many American companies, including smaller start-ups.

Congress set a limit of 85,000 visas annually, and more than 10,000 companies applied in 2014. But just 20 companies received more than 32,000 visas, according to Ronil Hira, a professor at Howard University who studies visa programs and analyzed federal H-1B data. The top 20 included several large outsourcing firms that provided temporary workers for businesses like Disney and Toys “R” Us.

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services approves the visas on a first-come-first-served basis, beginning each year on April 1. Federal officials allow only one application for each foreign worker, but companies can submit an unlimited number of applications for their employees, so global outsourcing giants can, and do, submit many requests.

H-1B visas are granted by a computer-run lottery if the number of applications exceeds the annual quota in the first week, which has happened in recent years. To prepare an H-1B visa application, employers must first submit a public document, known as a labor condition application, to the Department of Labor.

Companies can apply for more than one employee based on one labor condition application, and many outsourcing firms use one application to apply for 10 or more workers. The more labor condition applications a company gets approved, the more H-1B applications it can submit.

Because H-1B visa applications are not public record, the labor condition applications are an indicator of how many applications a company intends to file.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: h1b; jobs; outsourcing; visa; visafraud; visaloophole
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The outsourcing companies dominate the visa program by flooding the system with applications.


1 posted on 03/21/2016 10:10:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 03/21/2016 10:12:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 03/21/2016 10:13:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 03/21/2016 10:14:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The NYT is doing cover for CA RATS.
95% of all H1b and H1b-like visa come from Silicon Valley companies.
If they can’t get H1b in the country, they simply layoff USA workers and open reqs in India.

Two years ago, Intel did a silent layoff of 5,000 USA workers.
The NEXT week, they opened 1000 reqs in India.
Never reported in the media, never heard a peep out of Intel.


5 posted on 03/21/2016 10:15:30 AM PDT by Zathras
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RE: Two years ago, Intel did a silent layoff of 5,000 USA workers. The NEXT week, they opened 1000 reqs in India.

OK, this tells me that there were still 4,000 positions eliminated UNRELATED to outsourcing.


6 posted on 03/21/2016 10:18:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Zathras

Many of these H1B candidates may be getting placed in Silicon Valley. But the list of companies who actually sponsor their visas appears to be accurate.

New Jersey is “ground zero”.


7 posted on 03/21/2016 10:19:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
H-1B visas are designed to bring foreign professionals with college degrees and specialized skills to fill jobs when qualified Americans cannot be found.

The real problem is finding qualified Americans who are willing to work at 40% of the normal going rate for engineers.

8 posted on 03/21/2016 10:24:44 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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RE: The real problem is finding qualified Americans who are willing to work at 40% of the normal going rate for engineers.

Here’s one thing to consider — many early retirees in the IT industry would be willing to take jobs like these ( instead of being greeters at Wal-Mart ).

Would companies even consider them? Or are they biased against older folks?


9 posted on 03/21/2016 10:27:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The reality is, if cheap foreign computer programmers are stopped, American companies will simply move opertations abroad. The days of high paid computer programmers are long gone. There are millions of IT professionals worldwide looking for work.


10 posted on 03/21/2016 10:33:09 AM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote, you are actually voting for the candidate's rich donors!)
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’ Two of those applications came from Mark Merkelbach and his small engineering firm in Seattle. For water projects in China, he needed engineers and landscapers who speak Mandarin, and he could not find them in the local market. With his H-1B visas denied, Mr. Merkelbach had to move the jobs to Taiwan. Another denial went to Atulya Pandey, an entrepreneur from Nepal who founded an Internet company in the United States and now can no longer work legally in this country for his own business.’[ Excerpt]

Since when American landscapers is required to speak foreign languish.


11 posted on 03/21/2016 10:42:26 AM PDT by Libertynotfree (Over spending, Over taxes, and Over regulation)
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To: entropy12

if in sourcing is cut off and companies relocate overseas then that’s fine. At least American citizens won’t have to support all those H1b families that get welfare benefits due to the slave wages and there will be less demands on public schools to educate their kids for free.


12 posted on 03/21/2016 10:43:00 AM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016 (and 2020)!)
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RE: The reality is, if cheap foreign computer programmers are stopped, American companies will simply move opertations abroad

See Table 2 here:

http://www.dol.gov/wb/factsheets/hotjobs03.htm

So, all these Dept. of Labor surveys that show the jobs with the most demand and fastest growth rates are actually jobs that will be outsourced?

If so, we better tell students planning to major in STEM in advance.


13 posted on 03/21/2016 10:47:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Here’s one thing to consider — many early retirees in the IT industry would be willing to take jobs like these ( instead of being greeters at Wal-Mart ).

Would companies even consider them? Or are they biased against older folks?

In my experience the H-1B situation is more complicated. In IT anyway the H-1B employees in the US aren't that much cheaper, and that's not where the outsourcers get the savings. It's in the thousands of jobs that actually get offshored to India, the Philippines, wherever.

The role of the H-1Bs is to staff the few IT positions that actually have to be onsite. This includes customer interface, break/fix, specification development, and a broad category of things known as knowledge transfer. These employees then communicate back to the offshore workers and act as the go-between with the customer and the IT back office.

The outsourcers need these people to be under their control and culturally aligned with the actual workers back in Bangalore. US retirees would certainly have the technical skills to do these jobs but most wouldn't be equipped to manage the service delivery of thousands of offshore programmers.

In essence, the H-1Bs don't directly provide the savings but they enable the offshoring that does.

14 posted on 03/21/2016 10:51:32 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: SeekAndFind

Google “Trump”, “EB-1 Visa” and “China.” Get ready for the jolt if your life. Don’t blame me. I’m only presenting the truth.


15 posted on 03/21/2016 11:20:42 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Personality-centered, Machiavellian, group-think authoritarian populism. There you have it: Trumpism)
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Let’s “upgrade” to an ••EB-5••. Now, go Google it again!


16 posted on 03/21/2016 11:22:57 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Personality-centered, Machiavellian, group-think authoritarian populism. There you have it: Trumpism)
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RE: Google “Trump”, “EB-1 Visa” and “China.” Get ready for the jolt if your life. Don’t blame me. I’m only presenting the truth.

Trump is already on record as favoring H1-B’s. What we really need to know is WHAT KIND.


17 posted on 03/21/2016 11:28:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Edit to add, Ted Cruz has reviewed and revised his views on H1-B and proposes to impose a 180 day moratorium on the H-1B program, in order to carry out a comprehensive audit of the companies that have received H-1B visas to determine if they are abusing the program.

If they are bringing in low skilled workers, if they’re firing American workers, if they’re perverting the program. Any company that has abused the program will be suspended from participating in it, and any company that has violated the criminal laws will be prosecuted.


18 posted on 03/21/2016 11:31:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I only know about the 1000.
I left Intel soon after as I was tired of being lied to.
Worked there for 25 years and loved it until the new CEO showed up.


19 posted on 03/21/2016 11:33:09 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: entropy12
The reality is, if cheap foreign computer programmers are stopped, American companies will simply move opertations abroad.

That is not true and not backed up by statisitics.

20 posted on 03/21/2016 11:35:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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