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TIME TO DROP OUT? Ted Cruz Needs 87% of Remaining Delegates to Win Nomination
GP ^ | 03/17/16 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/17/2016 6:14:55 AM PDT by Enlightened1

After Super Tuesday 2.0 Donald Trump is on track to secure the Republican nomination.

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Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) would need 87% of remaining primary voters to win the nomination.
It might be time for Ted Cruz to drop out and endorse Donald J. Trump?

The New York Times reported:

Donald J. Trump’s series of victories on Tuesday extended his delegate lead and forced Senator Marco Rubio of Florida out of the presidential race. Mr. Trump’s path to winning enough delegates to secure the Republican nomination is not assured, but he is in a strong position.

Here are some ways the Republican nominating contest could unfold. Try adjusting the sliders to see how the outcomes change. Each line in the chart represents one possible outcome.

If Mr. Trump maintains his current level of support in the remaining races, he would almost certainly secure the nomination.

After Tuesday’s contests, no other candidate retains a real chance of capturing the delegates required to win the nomination outright. Mr. Rubio dropped out, Gov. John Kasich of Ohio is too far behind, and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas would need to win the vast majority of the remaining delegates — a near impossibility.

 

 

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; badmath; cruz; delegates; exposingted; nomination; stupid; unenlightened; unworthyoffr; win
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To: Velvet_Jones
Cruz has no path to the nomination. Period.

I love how Trump folks make declarations, that are so often proven wrong, and yet they continue to do so, as if their opinion is all that matters, LOL.

All your talk about the “Trump ceiling” are meaningless because the votes are counted, and delegates appointed, by state. And there simply aren’t enough Cruz-friendly states left to put Cruz over the top.

You might just want to re-think that. Again, if it is a 2-man race, and Trump continues to top out at 49%, then every state becomes Cruz-friendly, because he gets the remaining 51%... as long as Kasich is gone (sadly, Kasich is promising to stay in it, in an effort to get to a brokered convention, even though he is already mathematically eliminated). With the great number of winner-take-all states remaining, Cruz DOES win if Trump continues to fail to top 50%, as he has in EVERY SINGLE STATE SO FAR. The Trump Ceiling conjecture, which started back in NOV, seems to be proven true so far.

If it goes to a contested convention, you WILL get a ticket with Bush or Romney as the nominee.

Probably. And if Trump is nominated, Hillary also likely wins. Trump polls behind her, and Trump does worse than he polls (evidence: he has lost TEN states, not just the two he was supposed to lose). Cruz polls ahead of Hillary, and Cruz exceeds his final poll numbers very often (winning 8 states instead of the one he was polling ahead in). For those who truly want the UniParty to take a loss, Cruz is the only realistic shot remaining. Trump is exciting, and has lots of good points, and has taught the GOP to stand up to the media... but looking at the numbers at the halfway point of the Primary, Race, it is Cruz that is the actual hope today, not Trump. At the Convention, we either get a GOPe pick, or they cave to pressure and nominate Trump... but either way, Hillary wins, and the UniParty is relieved, and can continue. Going by the numbers, now that we have half of the states done, Cruz is actually the one that can win the nomination, and can beat Hillary, and can give a black-eye to the UniParty.

201 posted on 03/17/2016 7:45:45 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Charles Henrickson
And in any case, the more delegates he has, the more leverage he will have, as the only social and constitutional conservative in the race.

Amen to that. And the supporters of He Himself the "great negotiator" should know that some negotiation may be necessary to get over that 1,237 threshold.

202 posted on 03/17/2016 7:45:52 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: usafa92

Good analysis.


203 posted on 03/17/2016 7:46:20 AM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: Undecided 2012

I agree. It would be just as logical as saying Cruz should drop out. There is a system in place for electing a president, we have used that system for at least as far back as I can remember. It was not invented just to deny Trump the nomination. He has not been anointed and might not be nominated, these are the facts. He will just have to try harder if it gets tight.


204 posted on 03/17/2016 7:46:26 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: nascarnation
Absolutely nothing.
But you have to look at the candidates other than Trump and ask “what blue states from 2012 can they flip?”

Why can't I look at Trump and ask whether those numbers really mean he's going to flip those states?

205 posted on 03/17/2016 7:46:28 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Enlightened1

I challenge the bad math here. Just like his last post, Unenlightened1 posts garbage from Jim Hoft which is demonstrably false, just like alleging that Cruz wants to kill all gays.

This material is unworthy of FR and the poster needs to be banned.

This is rubbish.


206 posted on 03/17/2016 7:48:05 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama - the AIDS virus for the American body politic.)
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To: jstaff

it’s an insult to ask for cruz to drop out

why can’t trump drop out


207 posted on 03/17/2016 7:49:09 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Velvet_Jones
Cruz. Can’t. Win.

Cruz's path to the nomination is limited indeed, but.. why are you so intent on denying 21 states' voice in the nominating process? Even if Cruz falls short, as he very well may, quite likely he'll have some negotiation power insofar as the convention platform is concerned. So get this... in that scenario...

Trump. Can't. Win. Without. Cruz.

Painful thought for ya, isn't it? Learn it.. live it.. love it.

208 posted on 03/17/2016 7:49:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: RightFighter

And why would they do that? Are you forgetting Trump is a billionaire, he can outbid the GOPe. And you are dreaming if you think Cruz will be the nominee out of a brokered convention.


209 posted on 03/17/2016 7:50:20 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Enlightened1

He should drop out. has no path to the nomination.


210 posted on 03/17/2016 7:50:21 AM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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To: central_va
Trump wins the general in a 50 state landslide.

LMAO!!!!!!

211 posted on 03/17/2016 7:50:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: Enlightened1

Its clear at this point Cruz is in this for Cruz... and no one else.... When this all started, I respected him and agreed with him on many things....

Now, I have no respect at all for him. Blaming Trump for Chicago, saying he’s inciting riots, etc etc etc.. Cruz is a self centered prick, who is going to do and say anything to further himself... his so called “principled conservatism” is garbage. No principled conservative blames victims when others show up with the intent to start trouble.

So long Cruz... At this point, I suspect even Texas may be embarrassed of their senator.


212 posted on 03/17/2016 7:50:28 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: papertyger
Like a said: caviling.

Then all you have is your opinion and an obnoxious method of trying to convince me you're right.

213 posted on 03/17/2016 7:51:13 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Teacher317

Blah blah blah. It’s not my opinion, I’m giving you facts. The opinion in this thread is “trump has a 50% ceiling” that you’ve been pushing for weeks.

Trump is ahead in Arizona. Way ahead. That’s 58 delegates.

Cruz is not a viable candidate in the NE. In April, there are another 260 delegates in play. Cruz is not going to win any of those states. If you have some idea how he might, some poll numbers or reasoned argument (other than your silly ceiling nonsense) then maybe you have a point. But those 250 to 300 delegates are enough to deny Cruz the nomination.

I’ll be waiting, but I’m pretty sure all you’ve got is your silly Trump ceiling argument.


214 posted on 03/17/2016 7:51:41 AM PDT by Velvet_Jones
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To: Teacher317
if Trump continues to fail to top 50%, as he has in EVERY SINGLE STATE SO FAR.

Now, to be fair, Trump did get a majority of the vote in the Northern Mariana Islands. He just rocked the Northern Mariana Islands!

215 posted on 03/17/2016 7:52:12 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: ScottinVA

Stevie Wonder could see the Trumpnado heading this way.


216 posted on 03/17/2016 7:52:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Enlightened1

To get to 1237 Cruz needs 78% of the remaining delegates which he can do by winning 55% of the remaining vote to trump’s 45%. Trump’s ceiling as the theory goes is between 35 and 40%. He’s done well with cross over Dem votes while Cruz has him beat in caucus states 10 to 6. Cruz has also made inroads in the selection of the delegates themselves. This has been part of his ground game. If Trump doesn’t reach the magic 1237 number then the delegates are free to change their votes. This will be the moment where deals are made. Rules are the rules. And neither Rubio nor Kasich will ever throw their delegate support behind Trump although I have my doubts about Kasich...


217 posted on 03/17/2016 7:53:11 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: ScottinVA

I said: “Cruz will do nothing unless it benefits Cruz.”

With Trump, what you see is what you get, and YES he’s been more ALTRUISTIC than Ted Cruz ever will be.

TED CRUZ WROTE GEORGE BUSH’s IMMIGRATION POLICY. Wake up.


218 posted on 03/17/2016 7:54:02 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump right on Trade, Immigration, Terrorism,Economy, 2nd amend. Without them, we are lost.)
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To: ScottinVA

As usual, you offer no real response.

Pro-tip: “Let the process play out” isn’t a substantive reply.

I win the argument. Painful thought for you, isn’t it?


219 posted on 03/17/2016 7:54:24 AM PDT by Velvet_Jones
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To: central_va

“Everyone you’ve talked to...” right?


220 posted on 03/17/2016 7:54:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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